
Vladimir Putin: I won’t allow Starmer’s plan for troops in Ukraine
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-starmer-british-troops-ukraine-russia-b2700658.html
by ClumperFaz

Vladimir Putin: I won’t allow Starmer’s plan for troops in Ukraine
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/putin-starmer-british-troops-ukraine-russia-b2700658.html
by ClumperFaz
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This tyrant won’t do jack shit. Put those troops in there Keir.
No doubt there will be people here who side with Putin.
Putin’s plan was to take Ukraine in three days. I don’t think he can really be commenting on other peoples’ plans, can he?
This shit wouldn’t pass in a game of Civ, how on earth did we end up on this timeline.
Maybe putting a Fox News host in charge of international diplomacy was not a clever move.
He can feel free to pick a fight with a modern airforce and navy if he thinks that will help his floundering army that’s struggling to deal with a war ravaged Ukraine.
We have a long and notorious history of sending our troops where we want and when we want despite the protests of foreign leaders.
At this point it’s clear we’re going to wind up in a confrontation regardless of the “talks” taking place in Saudi Arabia. It’d be better for Starmer to get ahead of the curve and side-step the EU by working with Zelensky to put British forces in Ukraine, even in an aid capacity in areas distant from the frontline yet still afflicted by Russian terrorism.
Start small, build up if the threat continues. In the meantime, British troops can take over providing medical support and other aid whilst Ukrainian troops are freed up for the front.
This has always been considered a likely outcome of the US led peace talks. That no common ground can be found because Russian aims aren’t reasonable and the US therefore has to escalate because “we tried, god knows we tried but that Putin? Bad guy, bad guy…”
Russia seem to be under a bit of a misapprehension that they’re really the ones making decisions here. They’re trapped: they either do what the US finds agreeable or they’re in a real spot of bother. I expect they’ll come round.
What he going to do?
NATO far out number Putin in all aspects, troops, tanks, ships!
This story seems to be have been wildly misinterpreted. Probably purposefully so.
The PM said that British Troops could be utilised in peacekeeping operation in the event of a ceasefire agreement requiring peacekeeping troops. Nothing particularly outrageous about that. It’s not the first time British troops has participated in peacekeeping.
This seems to have been presented and interpreted by bad faith actors and hostile media as if he’s proposing British Troops to go to Ukraine to fight. That’s not the case.
Of course he won’t. He wants ukraine demilitarised and vulnerable so that he can renege on any deal and sweep in and take it all.
Putin doesn’t engage in good faith diplomacy, its purely for tactical advantage.
I know that Mr. Lammy isn’t the brightest foreign secretary to have served in the FCO, however I don’t believe that Mr. Putin has jurisdiction over the United Kingdom’s foreign policy.
Perhaps Sir Starmer ought to remind our chums in the East of the British Empire’s policy of speaking softly, but carrying a bloody big stick.
Am I the only one who thinks that Putin saying this is…odd? Like it feels too direct and too loud.
Ok Putin, pretty sure Ukraine and Starmer don’t really allow your troops or North Korean troops in Ukraine.
This is a classic attempt by Russia to control the narrative and set up a “concession “ to allow British troops in Ukraine in exchange for no other concessions. Don’t forget that uk troops in Ukraine was in Russia’s peace deal a few months ago.
Too far from the table to hear you I’m afraid Vlad, did you say send UK troops in? Ok old bean!
I’m never been more pro-war in my life. What was the point of sending our boys to Afghan and Iraq to die for Bush and Tony’s bullshit? Nothing. Pointless. This time it’s about defending freedom in Europe. This is what soldiers sign up to do. This is a mission for warriors.
Ok. So Britain sends a carrier to the Black Sea and puts 20k troops in Ukraine. What does Putin do? Nothing. Is he going to start ww3 and risk the certain destruction of Moscow? No.
First of all it will take a full blown out war to push the Russian forces out of Ukrainian territory and back beyond the internationally recognised border. Boots on ground will attract a greater conflict and serious safety issues across the world because other nations will pile in and scores will surely be settled or new ones begun.
The British Army in the state that is is under manned and equipped and would not be able to support boots on ground, besides once a shot is fired from a British soldier held weapon, it would signal war of the kind the British population would rather avoid. Starmer better not be goaded by Trump into being an arse. Ally or not there has been no theatre of conflict that America has led since WWII, that has had any great measure of success.
Ukraine is part of the continent of Europe, and has struggled along so far with the measly support it has managed to get from all around, now that in itself is not progress, because Putin has not stopped and will not stop till he like Hitler is stopped. The question in this day and age is how without causing WWIII? It is bothering that the case of a precursor for war being boots on ground is being tossed around. Putin threatens and the world cows behind their pens and microphones, Trump needs a piss and the British Prime Minister runs to fetch a potty and tissue.
Europe needs to rally together and agree a cease fire and a total end of hostilities for a period of months, and see what the areas occupied by would prefer? By the way it is amazing that Europe sat back and watched Israel utterly level Gaza, than intervene immediately to get the hostages released, and stop the genocide happening, and still watch on as Israel strives to make moves into surrounding sovereign states in the name of their security.
Idk, I think having nato troops concentrated in rump Ukraine while Russia can divert their troops elsewhere in Europe might quite be convenient…
I feel this could be one if those superficial “concession”
Protect what’s left of Ukraine (that we don’t really have the means to protect) at the expense of wider Europe.
Please just sent troops there and see what doesn’t happen…
If you don’t agree with what Kiers has alleged you’re apparently a Putin lover. Wtf is this sub…
I despise our govt but the moment another govt says “i wont allow it” im ready to sign up for the military and get boots on the ground, bro. Lets GOOOOOOOO
Putin said the same about pretty much every step up in aid. They wouldn’t accept HIMARS. Or 155mm howitzers. Or air defence systems. Or long range missiles. He definitely wouldn’t accept western fighter aircraft, or for long range missiles being allowed to hit targets in Russia. Ignore him.
I don’t think we should be listening to what a shit stain like Putin has to say. He should be put into a situation that he will do as he’s told! Like go play in traffic.
That’s nice. Other countries can choose their own foreign policies, Vlad.
Well noone else allowed russian troops in Ukraine, but here we are.
America and Russia both chest thumping for global dominance, and both collectively trying to do a classic shake down on Ukraine. It feels like we’ve jumped back in time.
China and Europe need to get a bit more organised and savvy to confront this nonsense.
As for Putin’s request re:UK troops : not your choice M8, you’ve shit the bed and now you gotta come to terms with your mess.
I’m really quaking in my boots at the leader of a country can barely run an economy & who harp on about their military capacity for 80+ years but when it comes down to it make an absolute botch job of every military action they attempt and have to turn to North Korea, one of the most dysfunctional countries in the world, for support
I think we need to tell Trump that if he carries on with this bullshit, we will look to develop new nuclear weapons with France, specifically because the US can no longer be trusted to act with integrity. That’s the kind of transactional response a bully like Trump would understand.
And I won’t permit Putin’s plans to come to fruition. And my statement will have about the same effect as Vlad’s.
It’s ok, the response should be ‘I won’t allow any Russian invaders to be in Ukraine or other countries’
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