Hi guys, there is a special place in Aargau that I have to drive every day.

In the example, I drive the red line from a side street in a residential area onto the actual main road in this small town.
There are always almost accidents here because the blue marked ones don't give me the right of way. I am always prepared for that to happen, I always check twice if they will slow down.

Postautos always give me the right of way, as do local residents. But now my question is, is it correct that I really have the right of way at this point if I'm coming from the blue direction? In terms of traffic, the speed limit for both red and blue is 50 km/h.

In the last two days, my right of way was cut off twice. Today, someone even flipped me off. I'm a bit unsure now whether I'm in the right or not. I'm also surprised why a Postauto, tractors or other local residents always let me out. Unfortunately, there are no signs here.

There are three more of these places in this area. For me, these are all „rechts vortritt“ places. Same as the one below in the photo.

by rasta3

34 comments

  2. Yes you really have the right of way. If its nothing special marked its always „rechts Vortritt“.

  3. 1 red, 2 blue….

    yeah… as a biker even thou I have the right, i double check, and sometimes I leave the people to take my right of way…I don’t want to be right but dead

  4. According to the street signaling / marks, you are right – they are all „Rechtsvortritt“. If that wouldn‘t be tha case the red street would have those „sharkteeth“ linings on the streets, signaling that you are merging with a main street.

    So many people are weird and stressed and only focus on themselves when driving. Plus them being in the car gives them a feeling of being untouchable.

  5. The markings are pretty clear, no “kein Vortritt” and the dashed triangle so it’s a Rechtsvortritt. It’s just a skill issue like so many times with drivers.

  6. This a right hand rule street (**Rechtsvortritt**), so if you are blue you need to give priority to red. Considering the direction of your arrows.

  7. Unless specifically indicated, the right of way applies (Rechtsvortritt) exception:

    The right of way does not apply to vehicles on marked main roads. Vehicles on marked main roads have right of way, even if they are coming from the left (Art. 36 Para. 2 Sentence 2 SVG).

    This is a typical case of you are allowed to drive 50kmh but it is not advisable as you have to be able to stop within sight range.

  8. Blue liners may have the feeling they have priority because the don’t turn but it’s wrong.

  9. This should genuinely be signaled to the local Gemeinde perhaps. As others said, you have the right of way but it is easy to make a mistake there as it is not easily seen.

  10. Yes people will act righteous in the most embarrassing situations where they are absolutely not in the right and it applies particularly well in this situation and to reassure you, you’re not the idiot and you know the rules of the road unlike the righteous muppets with whom we have to share the road.

  11. for these cases I was told that the dotted line indicates right right of way, basically that rule of thumb is that blue crosses the dotted line into “another lane” you don’t so you have the right of way as the red.

  12. You have right of way, but you can’t assume the blue arrows know you do. I would wait for them to slow/stop.

  13. its fun to see that there are marker on the street for the stupid ones to know that there is “rechtsvortritt” but many ignore it or just think they are on a highway or something. what could be the next step to signal the stupid what they have to do? taxiway lights on the ground?

  14. The road makings suggest that it is in fact priority to the right but I’m surprised the speed is 50 and not 30.

  15. Pretty obivous you got the right of way, it’s a classical case of “I’m on the straight road, so I got to have priority.” Idiots.

    Reminds of the dumb fucks that roll the stop to not lose momentum when going straight.

  16. Apart from what others have said, that “Rechtsvortritt” applies here, from a traffic engineering pov this intersection is also designed terribly. The angle at which the red and blue paths meet is way too sharp meaning that blue will only see red at the last moment. Drivers on blue should ofc be cautious but unfortunately, this can’t always be expected. If the paths intersected at a right angle the intersection would be much safer. The built-up environment makes this hard to realize though. An alternative approach would be to reduce the speed limit and maybe install a “Mini-Kreisel” to give drivers more time to react and be more aware of the situation around them.

  17. They’re everywhere tbh and yes, often ignored. A signpost works so much better than roadmarkings in crossroads, so maybe one day we’ll see changes

  18. rule of thumb with these dashed-triangle markings is: if you cross them, you don’t have right of way.

    red arrow doesn’t cross them so it definitely has right of way.

  19. Right before left. Ask the ones that flip you off if they got their license in a Toblerone. It’s clearly marked. The Red does not have to go over the dotted line. The blue one has to cross the doted line. That indicates Red has the right of way. Even without the doted lines… it’s Right before left in that situation.

  20. I mean.. the marking is pretty clear, innit?

    Red goes first.

  21. Rule of thumb: „If you cross a dotted line, you DON‘T have right of way“

    So yes, red before blue

  22. Just let them hit you if you need a brand new car covered by the moron insurance that can’t follow drawing on the road

  23. Red has the right of way. In my experience, the problem with these kinds of situations is that the people on blue probably mistakenly think they’re on a *Hauptstrasse* because it *looks* like the main road, and I’m guessing a lot of people coming down the red line on a daily basis have kind of resigned themselves to that fact and just give them the right of way. I can think of at least 2-3 similar spots on my way to work where that’s what happens. If one street is noticeably wider than the other, people somehow assume they have the right of way.

  24. It‘s Rechtsvortritt. The one coming from the right has the right of way.
    In this example, RED has priority.
    If you are BLUE and drive ahead, the driver in RED coming from your RIGHT has the right of way and you need to give him priority.
    If you are RED you should actually be able to just drive ahead, as you have priority.

    The failure so many drivers commit is that they instinctively feel that the driver driving straight ahead should have priority over the driver that they feel is merging into „their“ line of driving, so they drive straighr ahead and cut them off.

    But legaly, and be aware that driving students learn it pretty much that way, the RED driver coming from the right in a Rechtsvirtritt intersection doesn’t even have to slow down and when you hit them, you will be made responsible for ignoring one of the most fundamental traffic laws.

  25. Not only are you correct that red has the right of way, whoever flipped you off was an idiot because they combined their traffic offense (taking the right of way) with a criminal offense against Art. 177 StGB. Breaking two laws at the same time is an excellent way to get the police to actually care about things they might let go if they were a one-off.

    Separately, that is a horribly designed intersection. Did a drunk monkey design this?

  26. For the marks in the ground, almost sure that applies the general rule on intersections: who comes from our right have priority or we have priority from those who are in our left (depends how you want to see it lol). Exception to emergency vehicles that are in emergency.

    In conclusion you (red) have the right way from the Blue. Blue needs to stop/slow down to let you pass in security.

  27. Red clearly has a right of way, if signs dont state otherwise.

  28. The signals on the ground means comming from the right has the right of way….
    If you drive blue, red has the right of way.
    If you drive red, you have th right of way before blue.

    Since right before left is “quite new” for main roads/ 50km/h zones, a lot of people are not prepared to not have right of way.

  29. its very clear that you have right of way, feel free to agressively honk at anyone who cuts you off..

  30. It‘s quite a great marking even if you don‘t know about „Recht vor Links“. If you cross the line you have no right of lane, if you dont cross one, you have the rigt of lane.

  31. What about a 4 way intersection, 3 of the roads have shark teeth yield markings, and one does not?

    So I’m assuming the one with no markings goes first, but since there a 3 others, is it again the rule of whoever is on the right has priority?

  32. Red has right of way. Blue doesn’t, unless there is no red.

    Edit: I am a bit confused, you say in the post, that you’re in red, then you’re in blue. Blue has no right of way, if red is there.

  33. You have the right. It didn’t change recently. It’s the people you met who changed, especially their IQ.

  34. Red line has right of way. Anyone unsure should reconsider even being on the road.
    That said, local authorities should prioritise one or the other with triangular give way signs like in the rest of the world. But hey this is Switzerland, we are the best, why take example from abroad?

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