Britain did not hold elections from 1939 to 1945 due to WW2. Was Churchill a dictator, or a defender of democracy and savior of the nation like Volodymyr Zelenskyy?
by _Alistan
Britain did not hold elections from 1939 to 1945 due to WW2. Was Churchill a dictator, or a defender of democracy and savior of the nation like Volodymyr Zelenskyy?
by _Alistan
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There are no elections in Ukraine because, according to the Constitution, elections are not held in wartime, Zelensky did not change the Constitution, it was adopted long before him. If Zelensky holds elections now, he will directly violate the Constitution of Ukraine.
In addition, the idea that there are no elections in Ukraine and that its president is illegitimate is a direct narrative of Russia, and you just repeat it over and over again, which only helps Russia to promote this narrative
In the photo, Churchill is on the lawn in front of the White House dressed in his “Siren suit” while everyone else is was dressed more formally in suits and dresses, he, like Volodymyr Zelensky, 80 years later will be forced to make a lot of efforts, including such unconventional steps, to awaken American society from the world of rosy fantasies
Trump doesn’t give a heck about the democracy or legitimacy of Zelenskyy. He just wants to put in charge some pro russian marionette instead of him.
Europe will remember this when Americas getting It’s ass handed to it by China and wants help.
When that day comes, I hope europe knows how to answer
Trump would never have supported Churchill either.
The good old british bulldog , a Hero for GB , like our Ukrainian bulldog is for his country
I don’t think holding fair elections during wartime is possible. Because not everybody can vote and there is a super high risk of manipulation. And it’s not very useful either, especially if you weigh it against the risks.
But the UK, the Scandinavian countries, the Benelux and Spain are monarchies and not republics. So our monarchs and prime ministers aren’t elected as in republics anyway.
That’s why Mark Rutte could rule for 14 years. And our current Prime Minister is a neutral guy and not a member of any party.
Which I think is a good thing for Ukraine, because now our neutral prime minister can support Ukraine because the parliament wants it. While Geert Wilders (the Dutch Trump who won the elections) can officially still be against aiding Ukraine, while his neutral prime minister aids Ukraine.
Orcs must have an insane compromat on the orange turd.
Just yesterday my wife and I did a tour of the Churchill Museum in London and let me tell you it was one of the most painful moments in my life, knowing everything we fought for was being flushed down the drain in a couple of tweets. 😡
You Ukrainian badasses don’t need to convince or justify anything. Keep fighting. Fuck trump and Putin.
No one in Britain thinks zelenski is a dictator.
Trump is trying the only things he knows in negotiations. To play hard and make up the rules. The USA are going to look back at this time and wonder how come they lost all their friends.
I thought no elections was a good thing? Didn’t Trumpy say to his supporters – “it will be great, you won’t even need to vote!”? Isn’t he trying to take away voting protections? Didn’t he fraudulently win his own election by teaming up with Elon Musk and Russia? Trump really isn’t the person to critize any country’s elections right now!
Trump is too dumb to remember history.
That’s too much nuance for trump. He only says things he thinks up in the moment or the things he was told in private.
Ukraine’s Constitution prohibits elections during wartime. But Trump has no interest in following America’s Constitution, so it’s fair to assume he believes Zelenskyy should disregard Ukraine’s Constitution.
Trump is a dictatorial sack of shit.
Also, the term dictator came from the Roman empire and it was only meant for emergenciea.
one counsel could only become a dictator in a time of crisis, at first it was only for a year but later one was to remain a dictator until the situation was deemed as resolved.
A german Satiere news paper put it this way: “If Zelenskyy was really a dictatir, then Trump would worship him”
This is meaningless because if Ukraine holds elections like Trump wants and Zelenskyy wins Trump will bitch about them being fraudulent and fake and not accept the results anyways, just like he did in 2020.
He wants a pro-Russian puppet in there. It would be suicide for the country to do this.
There’s no such thing as breaking a few laws when you are saving your country. Didn’t I hear that from someone that was more destroying than saving his own country recently?
russia hasn’t held fair elections in 20 years, and they were not at war
for cartoon evil trump is, I would not be surprised if he order that one Licon statue be removed, and put on of him in its place
Don’t bother repeating it, that’s what they want. Just giving examples brings it into question. It’s constitutionally correct.
It does fall in the every accusation is a confession category though. I wonder who could be a dictator that changed their nations constitution???
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who was defeated…? same fight different place/face. how are we here again?
100% Trump would have sided with Hitler, I have zero doubts about that.
To even consider any of Trumps statements as rational in any way and try to discuss them as such seems pointless.
After the war is over, Zelensky doesn’t even *want* to be president anymore. He’s already said this,
The fact that Trump and Putin want him gone, means that he’s the exact right man for the job. We should support him *more.*
Most countries do NOT hold elections during wartime, especially not when being invaded by a huge bordering nation. This is basic fucking stuff. Trump is a fucking retard
Currently it would be illegal for elections to be held in Ukraine. That question should be closed and shut with that. Because Ukraine is a functioning democracy with rule of law. Unlike Russia (and increasingly, unlike the United States of America.)
Trump is not in the same league as the truly great Zelensky.
Putin is offering money to the Trump criminal organisation, hence his attacks on Zelensky. Trump is pathetic and Putin is a cold blooded murderer.
Its a moot point.
It’s in Ukraine’s Constitution there will be no elections if martial law is in place, he is following the law.
Murika’s laws don’t apply in Ukraine.
One side is a Golfer King, the other is a true leader in a time of full scale war. No question for any sane person.
Bring it on, Doesn’t Z man have 50% approval rating? Will be an easy win.
Ah, and I love your picture as well. People have mocked Zelenskyy for not dressing in suit and tie, forgetting that Churchill wore his Siren Suits in solidarity with Londoners as they suffered through the Blitz. Great leaders only come along in rare instances. Slava Ukraini.
Trump would have stabbed Churchill in the back.
I mean, the US kinda did it back then, too. Initially when Hitler started to steamroll over Europe, they didn’t want to “get involved”. Churchill repeatedly asked for aid, if not soldiers then at least weapons, but the US was too afraid of Hitlers reaction. They didn’t want to “escalate,” the “theater of war”.
Only after Pearl harbor did the US join the war. After they were directly attacked.
Too little, too late. The war was already turning when they decided to show up.
Something something Roosevelt something something.
The Russians want elections so badly in order to tamper with them, and then say their preferred stooge/kleptocrat is the rightful president.
it really doesn’t matter. trump is making arrangements with putin who killed his oponents, put them in gulag or chase them out russia…and then, after adapting the constitution to his wishes, and with no real oponents and oppressed media won the elections with 90%…last free elections in russia were in 1991. zelensky would have to try much harder to catch with putin
If i am not mistaken its in their laws that no elektion of that siet is held while at war.
He simply follows the the law.
Besiedes imagine elections If part of your territory is held by enemy forces that would 100% try some shit in the election. Ukraine has murderous raping arseholes invading that try to genocide them they have more pressing concerns
A dictator in the literal roman sense of the definition, but so was FDR.
trump just trying to normalize the concept of autocrats to americans. Thats why he double tap that tactic today. “He is a dictator” & “im a king”
Doesnt Trump have a bust of Churchill in his office? I think I read that somewhere
Asking the question is answering it
I think Churchill would have been enamored by Zelensky’s heroism and leadership.
This conversation is so tiresome. The comparison between “we held elections during ww2 but ______ isn’t”
How about the UNITED STATES WASN’T BEING INVADED and Ukraine is.
rashists don’t even believe that world war 2 began in 1939
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