Finnish MEP Mika Aaltola says he has heard from several sources that the United States would give Europe three weeks to agree to peace terms. According to Aaltola, the United States is threatening to withdraw its troops from Europe if peace terms are not accepted within three weeks.
https://www.hs.fi/politiikka/art-2000011047551.html
by GrumpyFinn
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That’ll be the last agreement we ever make with the US
MEP Mika Aaltola (National Coalition Party) says that the United States is pursuing a broad solution on a very rapid schedule, in which Ukraine is forced to agree to very unfavorable peace terms.
According to Aaltola, he has heard from several NATO and EU sources that the United States would give Europe three weeks to agree to peace terms or else the United States would withdraw from Europe.
“It came from many directions that these are practically such harsh peace terms for Ukraine that there is talk of surrender,” Aaltola says.
According to Aaltola, the threat is particularly posed by the United States’ departure from Eastern and Northern Europe.
Aaltola attended the Munich Security Conference last week. He believes that US Vice President JD Vance was supposed to give a keynote speech along these lines, but it was changed at the last minute to focus mainly on European elections and democracy.
Aaltola believes this inevitably leads to the question of how committed the United States is to NATO. According to him, the acute question in European capitals at the moment is whether the United States will be pressured, even against its own interests, or whether its own strict conditions will be imposed.
Aaltola’s party colleague, MEP Pekka Toveri, said in an interview with HS on Thursday that he does not believe the United States is abandoning NATO because it would be against its interests. However, Toveri insists that Europe must take a tougher stance towards the United States.
Aaltola suspects that there may be a tough negotiating strategy behind this.
“Of course, it should be noted that there are two interpretations of the matter,” Aaltola says.
“In Europe, some see this as the beginning of negotiations and others as a sudden and rapid change in the US position. So is this something to negotiate versus is it a decision made in the US?”
According to Aaltola, many countries, such as Poland, are now silent as they try to figure out what is going on.
“But it’s already speaking quite harsh language when we talk about withdrawing troops from new member states. Then we are talking, in Finnish, about approving support for Russia.”
Aaltola interprets US President Donald Trump’s speeches in recent years as meaning that the US administration actually sees things in a way that is very unfavorable to Europe and that, according to Aaltola, Europe should understand this.
“We have three weeks to grow up,” he writes on the messaging service X.
Pekka Toveri lamented in an interview with HS that Europe currently lacks leadership. According to Aaltola, leadership would be demonstrated by announcements of increased defense spending. For him, leadership means practical actions and emphasizing defense and security issues.
Aaltola believes that many European countries will now increase their defense spending. For example, Denmark has just announced that it will increase its defense spending significantly.
“Denmark was the first to receive the Trump administration’s tidal wave on the Greenland issue. In fact, if you were to call Copenhagen now, there would probably be a lot to learn from there.”
How have MEPs received Trump’s comments on Ukraine?
“Everyone is complaining about it now in confusion, but complaining won’t help. This is quite an ice bath in itself. If you don’t understand it now, you probably won’t understand it later either.”
If this is really true then we have not other option but break ties with the US. What a clusterfuck
Fuck them and support our local domestic market so we can afford to build our own arms
Join us on the mission: r/BuyFromEU
Ah, Republicans. They’re very good at invading brown countries with small, underdeveloped militaries. Not so good at standing up to countries that can put up a fight, though! The entire western world had to come to their aid when a bunch of terrorists knocked over a pair of skyscrapers, but when entire cities are burning and hundreds of thousands are dying in trenches, and those same allies ask for help in return, the cowards are nowhere to be found.
We do not need the armies of cowards on our continent. They’re worth nothing anyway, and might sooner be a problem at that. We’ll fondly remember the sacrifices of their grandfathers and great-grandfathers. May their legacy forever tower over yours.
Let them withdraw, don’t even think to bend the knee to Trump out of fear of losing US protection!
Leave then, If Europe accepts these threats will show us as so damn weak.
Goodbye!
I think while Europe 100% should plan and prep for USAless military defence, it needs to be pointed out this man is a failed presidential candidate whose own family cut ties with him due to his behaviour and lies during campaigning.
In other words, might not be the best source, though he undeniably has GOP contacts.
Imagine lf Reagan was alive, that he would see that the republican party has become a puppet beholden to a former KGB officer hellbent on recreating the Soviet Empire whose spine the US spent trillions to crush (Putin has called the collapse of the Soviet Empire the biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the 20th century). It is beyond insane.
Ok that gives us three weeks to station our troops at our Eastern borders and prepare for war. We should never give in to such threats.
Trump’s word is as worthless as Putin’s.
This has always been the risk with outsourcing military defence and production to the US, as well as economic reliance. Everything gives them leverage over the EU.
The US has a rich history of false flags operations, coups and other forms of meddling in foreign countries to get their will. The people who have been blind to this and pushed for deeper reliance on the US are naive fools.
Trump will never stop demanding. If you give in to him, then he will push to take more. And he doesn’t honor his commitments anyways, so you may as well say goodbye to American troops in Europe.
The world has changed. Get on board.
Please take your troops and gtfo
The last thing we need is a Russian ally with bases in our countries. You chose to demolish an alliance and friendship your grandfathers died to create only to suck up to an insecure ex-KGB asset.
Get out.
Seems obvious that ~~Orange~~ The Cheeto will leave NATO as soon as he can.
Bye. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
For them to leave our military bases would be good news.
F their plan, f their troops, f their peace.
Lets grow a backbone, troops to Ukraine!
Make russia small again!
The main problem is weapon systems and IT .. but I think we need to go it alone .. Trump and his shitlings see Russia as their new allies now .. They love the thought of Oligarchy and want this for themselves… The Billionaires want to be Trillionaires .. it won’t end well
Traitors.
I’m a Finn and I don’t believe anything this dude says. Our PM (also head of Aaltolas party) dismissed this info as false.
Aaltola has been giving many weird statements lately. Even his sister, who supported him in the presidential election last year, publicly wondered what has happened to him.
Then the US will loose a lot of intelligence and circle of influence. For military actions in the middle east they cannot use European military bases any more, which will limit their capability of actions.
Trump always pretends that America is giving and all other taking. But they get a lot for their money and military presence in Europe. Trump is too dumb to realize that. He does not understand soft power… only dollars.
We need US troops out of Europe anyhow.
Nobody seriously believes they are there to protect Europe. They protect US interests in Europe. And that has always been their only interest in Europe.
We should accept, and prompty reinforce our eastern flank to assuage our EE brothers. Getting rid of these bases in other circumstances will be a nightmare, and we’ll have to do that very soon
What’s the point for Europe to have US troops if the US is going to side with Russia when they invade a European country. At this point, having US troops is the equivalent of having Russian troops in your territory and is more of a security threat than anything else.
Well they can get the fuck out. If we bend our knees in this situation then there’s no fucking point in building the European project.
At this point, it doesn’t matter if they take troops out or not, NATO is over.
An alliance can only serve its purpose if there’s trust between allies.
It might be hard to compreend, but US and EU are no longer allies, it’s over. They should get their stuff out of Europe as soon as possible.
so….USA is willingly going to remove their strategic placement? ok…..sure.
There is 0% chance that the United States would fight on our side if we are attacked from Russia, a very high chance that they don’t fight with us but just continue to leak intel to Putin and a non-zero chance that they fight with Putin. So yeah. We should better tell them to get out. By the way, I do not see why we should continue to subsidize the US military presence in Europe.
Withdraw them, what good are troops of a Russian vassal to us.
Let their troops leave. The US are now a hostile nation. They should not have troops stationed in the EU.
The us is stationed all over europe to be able to attack everywhere at any given time to protect their interests, not to protect europe . Pack your shit, pack your atomic bombs and leave.
>United States is threatening to withdraw its troops from Europe
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
US is clearly no longer our ally. They’re literally aligned with our enemy. Why would we want their bases in Europe? I hope they go. Trump’s completely destroyed any credibility US had. Hope Europe gives him a rude awakening by just going at it without the US and forming strong partnerships elsewhere.
Those are paper soldiers anyway with this president.
No one believes those soldier would be put against Russia right now, so whatever deterrence they have by being here is just on paper. Better to send them home than to have a false sense of security.
At this point, US bases in Europe already have negligible value to Europeans, so it’s not really the negotiating ace Trump thinks it is.
I propose the following:
1. We make US pack up as quickly as possible
2. Similar to the flight from Afghanistan, they’ll leave behind an ungodly amount of military equipment
3. We load it on trucks and send it to Ukraine
People, if this is true and you live near russia — prepare for war.
I’m from Ukraine, and sooner or later, we will fall under the pressure of ruzzia and America (since they are now allies), as I currently see absolutely no actions from Europe that could stabilize the situation or help us.
So, I will give some advice that I wish I had given myself and my friends at the beginning of the war:
1. Do not flee the city immediately if enemy troops are advancing and you don’t have a clear picture of the situation (where the troops are, whether they are surrounding or have already surrounded the city, if there are enemy sabotage groups, etc.). Many civilians were killed while trying to leave — tanks and machine guns simply shot them in their cars. If you are stuck in a traffic jam (there will be one) and there’s a chance enemy forces will reach you, abandon your car (but leave room on the road for others to pass) and move on foot. Organize with other people. A car is not worth your life.
2. Buy a solar-powered radio in case the internet is cut off (trust me, it will be).
3. Get a good sleeping bag for shelter and earplugs.
4. Stock up on medicine and long-lasting food.
5. A portable power station has saved and continues to save lives when electricity is cut off after bombings. It also allows you to work from home.
6. If you hear air defense systems working, a drone, or a missile flying nearby — stay away from windows. Do not record videos or post them online — you are helping the enemy. If a drone crashes nearby, shrapnel can kill you. Remember the “two walls” rule.
7. Think with a clear head. Yes, you will panic, but you need to calm down and carefully plan your next steps. It could save your life. Do not give in to panic.
The US has a LOT more to lose if it cuts Europe free and runs away.
The potential for European firms to capitalise by expanding into defence materiel mass production, and it’s equivalent loss in billions of $$ to the US could shift geopolitical dynamics in our favour, which is what less blindsided European lawmakers should have been pushing for since Bush Jr. started the jingoistic nonsense 20+ years ago.
Should we really need to remind you that French, British, Spanish and Italian armies are decent enough to protect the continent? Why everybody is acting like EU is like a United African tribes in the 18th century? I mean, you should really invest your armies more, but you’re panicking too much.
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