Were they even invited If Micheál hasn’t even been invited
OK, grand… Were they even going in the first place? They’re not in government, so it wouldn’t have been a ministerial visit or part of the St Patrick’s Day Programme.
This might actually get Martin uninvited too 😂
Pretty smart from SF
Not invited. As they shouldn’t be.
I’m surprised, they were quick to get on their knees for Genocide Joe but they draw the line at Mango Mussolini, hmmm, their moral grandstanding rings a bit hollow now.
Fair play to them.
None were invited 😀
Did they get invited?
I too am not travelling to the White House this March.
How about not travelling to the USA at all?
Well done SF
Mehole will…
The right decision. Things are bad in America and they’re only going to get worse between now and Paddy’s day. No-one in any way attached to Trump is coming out of this well. I 100% guarantee he hates Ireland anyway.
BTW, if the Taoiseach does go, I’d like him to look Trump in the eye and say “Tá tú ag insint bréaga”. Seeing as it’s so mild, by his own reckoning, it should be fine.
They aren’t serious operators.
Student union level stuff this is. Diplomacy is a grown-ups game.
I think this thread is a great example of the sheer ignorance of the Irish voter base.
Given Trumps current administration, his move towards the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (Dems aren’t innocent of this either), his calls that the administration can do whatever it wants without the checks and balances in place, and imposing a number of stupid tariffs on other countries, we shouldn’t bend the knee to that man.
Showing a bit of backbone
No one should be heading over there.
I mean we are talking about an administration that is actively saying it doesn’t believe in soft power. Very eager to see what will actually be accomplished by those who do attend.
Missed opportunity.
I know this is against popular opinion, but it’s easier to tell someone that they’re wrong in person.
A boycott should only be used as a last resort, and will likely feed into Trumps ‘us against them’ mindset
This isn’t how diplomacy works.
Clowns. They’ll never get to run this country, hopefully.
Most of our tax revenue comes from 10 US companies. Is that really a good idea?
The US is fast becoming a pariah state under Trump don’t believe Rubios bullshit either. The EU needs to reinforce the point to Trump and his admin that they are wrong in their approach to Ukraine and Gaza, end of story.
Let them Communists stay at home so
Because they were not invited.
This is not the time to be drawing unwanted attention towards Ireland or naive virtue signalling. The Taoiseach needs to turn up if invited, say very little, and get out – the last thing we want is to have Trump turn his attention towards us.
This is a relief
There are some thick cunts in here still downplaying Trumps actions over the last few weeks
I bet Ireland won’t be invited this year. This is not important for Trump – he’ll just forget about it
Ah, the luxury of being Opposition
-Tailors whole economy around US multinationals
-Falls out with EU over our refusal to budge on corporate tax rates
-Russian and Israeli embassy leave country
-Now trying to fall out with the US
.
.
.
-Profit?
Most of the media (especially Newstalk for some reason) and the business lobbies are pushing hard for the Taoiseach not to rock the boat; can’t risk the economy, we’re too small to make a difference, etc.
Two things are going to happen
1. The Trump administration will pursue whatever tariffs or plans that will affect us regardless, but they will try to extract concessions from Ireland anyway.
2. There will be a loyalty test. The Taoiseach will be asked to acknowledge something both ludicrous and humiliating.
In my opinion, the Taoiseach should duck this somehow but if he goes, he needs to make sure we don’t look like a pushover. Because even though we’re small fry, bullies love a pushover.
I think they should have shown some realpolitik and went (if invited). Being Leaders of Ireland means sometimes holding your nose and interacting with people you’d otherwise like not to in the short term, for the longterm good.
What if America started treating Ireland differently if we elect someone they disapprove of for whatever reason?
He is the President of America, and Ireland has a longstanding relationship with the country that is bigger than any one President.
I say this and somebody who is on the Left btw.
This wouldnt have cost them a single vote anyway, nobody would intending to vote SF next time would pause and think “Oh wait, they went and met President Trump, THAT, means I can’t vote for them, otherwise I ofc would have”.
Doesn’t happen that way.
EDIT
Also, we need America to help with the project of a United Ireland, flatter him enough and who knows what Trump’s views on that might be? He can be highly influenced, as we’ve seen with Russia. We don’t have the same pulling power, but he is ego obsessed. Going down in history as the President who helped unite Ireland MIGHT appeal to his ego.
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Did they get invited?
Were they even invited If Micheál hasn’t even been invited
OK, grand… Were they even going in the first place? They’re not in government, so it wouldn’t have been a ministerial visit or part of the St Patrick’s Day Programme.
This might actually get Martin uninvited too 😂
Pretty smart from SF
Not invited. As they shouldn’t be.
I’m surprised, they were quick to get on their knees for Genocide Joe but they draw the line at Mango Mussolini, hmmm, their moral grandstanding rings a bit hollow now.
Fair play to them.
None were invited 😀
Did they get invited?
I too am not travelling to the White House this March.
How about not travelling to the USA at all?
Well done SF
Mehole will…
The right decision. Things are bad in America and they’re only going to get worse between now and Paddy’s day. No-one in any way attached to Trump is coming out of this well. I 100% guarantee he hates Ireland anyway.
BTW, if the Taoiseach does go, I’d like him to look Trump in the eye and say “Tá tú ag insint bréaga”. Seeing as it’s so mild, by his own reckoning, it should be fine.
They aren’t serious operators.
Student union level stuff this is. Diplomacy is a grown-ups game.
I think this thread is a great example of the sheer ignorance of the Irish voter base.
Yes, SF do get an invite to visit the White House and yes, they have attended in the past. For example, in 2017 they did [meet Trump in the White House](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/sinn-fein-td-denies-party-hypocrisy-over-donald-trump-1.2969375) because they felt it was important to maintain relations with him.
Given Trumps current administration, his move towards the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (Dems aren’t innocent of this either), his calls that the administration can do whatever it wants without the checks and balances in place, and imposing a number of stupid tariffs on other countries, we shouldn’t bend the knee to that man.
Showing a bit of backbone
No one should be heading over there.
I mean we are talking about an administration that is actively saying it doesn’t believe in soft power. Very eager to see what will actually be accomplished by those who do attend.
Missed opportunity.
I know this is against popular opinion, but it’s easier to tell someone that they’re wrong in person.
A boycott should only be used as a last resort, and will likely feed into Trumps ‘us against them’ mindset
This isn’t how diplomacy works.
Clowns. They’ll never get to run this country, hopefully.
Most of our tax revenue comes from 10 US companies. Is that really a good idea?
The US is fast becoming a pariah state under Trump don’t believe Rubios bullshit either. The EU needs to reinforce the point to Trump and his admin that they are wrong in their approach to Ukraine and Gaza, end of story.
Let them Communists stay at home so
Because they were not invited.
This is not the time to be drawing unwanted attention towards Ireland or naive virtue signalling. The Taoiseach needs to turn up if invited, say very little, and get out – the last thing we want is to have Trump turn his attention towards us.
This is a relief
There are some thick cunts in here still downplaying Trumps actions over the last few weeks
I bet Ireland won’t be invited this year. This is not important for Trump – he’ll just forget about it
Ah, the luxury of being Opposition
-Tailors whole economy around US multinationals
-Falls out with EU over our refusal to budge on corporate tax rates
-Russian and Israeli embassy leave country
-Now trying to fall out with the US
.
.
.
-Profit?
Most of the media (especially Newstalk for some reason) and the business lobbies are pushing hard for the Taoiseach not to rock the boat; can’t risk the economy, we’re too small to make a difference, etc.
Two things are going to happen
1. The Trump administration will pursue whatever tariffs or plans that will affect us regardless, but they will try to extract concessions from Ireland anyway.
2. There will be a loyalty test. The Taoiseach will be asked to acknowledge something both ludicrous and humiliating.
In my opinion, the Taoiseach should duck this somehow but if he goes, he needs to make sure we don’t look like a pushover. Because even though we’re small fry, bullies love a pushover.
I think they should have shown some realpolitik and went (if invited). Being Leaders of Ireland means sometimes holding your nose and interacting with people you’d otherwise like not to in the short term, for the longterm good.
What if America started treating Ireland differently if we elect someone they disapprove of for whatever reason?
He is the President of America, and Ireland has a longstanding relationship with the country that is bigger than any one President.
I say this and somebody who is on the Left btw.
This wouldnt have cost them a single vote anyway, nobody would intending to vote SF next time would pause and think “Oh wait, they went and met President Trump, THAT, means I can’t vote for them, otherwise I ofc would have”.
Doesn’t happen that way.
EDIT
Also, we need America to help with the project of a United Ireland, flatter him enough and who knows what Trump’s views on that might be? He can be highly influenced, as we’ve seen with Russia. We don’t have the same pulling power, but he is ego obsessed. Going down in history as the President who helped unite Ireland MIGHT appeal to his ego.
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