Home Office refuses to reveal number of deportations halted by ECHR

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1. Home Office needs pulling apart completely at this point, been broken for 40 years. Labour said it wasn’t fit for purpose last time they were in.

2. Torygraph on their usual “let’s get out of ECHR” nonsense crusade.

3. The entire right sure seem happy to sell all our human rights down the river just so they can mistreat immigrants. Not sure if malice or lack of forward thinking, probably both.

4. > Steve Barclay, a former Cabinet minister who has been calling for Britain to leave the ECHR, asked in a parliamentary question how many appeals against both deportation orders and administrative removal decisions had been based on human rights grounds.

   > “The Government should be monitoring this, but we know they won’t want to as they are unwilling to challenge the ECHR.”

   If only the previous guys in charge had set up systems to collect data on this, then we could have had 14 years worth of data on this by now!

5. The ECHR is not your enemy people, in fact, quite the opposite…

   But the ones trying to convince you it’s the enemy are actually your enemy.

   Pay attention ffs

6. How they supposed to have this data if it wasn’t collected under Tories?

7. For fucks sake the ECHR doesn’t “stop” deportations – British judges do. Because we’re a signatory to the European convention on human rights. You know – the thing that gives us all freedoms and rights.

   The world is rapidly feeling more dystopian and the neo feudalist revolution by the billionaire class are aggressively hammering the door of democracy and human rights. The last two things that threaten their ambitions.

8. How pesky those human rights how dare other people except me have them

9. We should have all the data available, it stops anyone from spreading lies, to not “reveal” data that is in the public’s best interest to know is despotic.

10. The answer is… zero (until there’s an actual court ruling).

    There may be instances where HO believes there might be an ECHR breach – but they’re unlikely to record those.

11. Dickheads against human rights getting played by the real problems

12. Why do other countries that are signatories to the ECHR seem to have no issue with deporting criminals?

    The independence of the judiciary is a good thing but their interpretation of the “right to family / private life / life” is in my opinion wrong when the ECHR has provisions in it where for or seems to have wording that allows a state to get around that for public safety. I’m not a legal expert by any means, but just how I read it

    Article 1 Section 2
    > Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law. No one shall be deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law

    Article 8 Paragraph 2
    > except such as is in accordance with the
    law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety, or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime,

    For example, if that is one of the articles being cited, surely the law /sentencing guideline can be reworded such that violent crimes are subject to automatic deportation at the end of their prison sentence. One can argue it is in public safety or national security to deport dangerous criminals, such as terrorists, rapists, murders, people consistently convicted of assaults and other crimes.

    Now, everyone has a right to appeal, of course, but maybe the Justice Secretary should issue reform to those laws and legal guidance to judges that grounds of public safety and public interest here take precedence or something.

    I mean Protocol 7 Article 4 enforces Double Jeopardy and putting someone through a trial for the same crime twice, but has not prevented us from overriding that in light of new evidence in a case.

13. The Telegraph being the Telegraph again!

    They need to continue showing a piece of meat to a starving lion in order to stay relevant.

14. The Home Office is corrupt and been working against the interests of the UK public. Of course they won’t release the figures….it’d be a national scandal.

15. The Torygraph once again trying to fluff the Toby carvery lads into a foaming at the mouth pink rage. Which rights that the ECHR guarantee you would you be happy to get rid of Toby’s? Happy to strip yourself of protections as long as you have “FoRiNs” you are told are beneath you…..

16. ECHR and its acts can literally be copied in its exact format with edits and amendments like any other bill that usually gets edited over time ffs. Most EU human rights laws were taken from the U.K. bill of rights anyway!

    The right to a family life part gets abused by criminals over and over again – it should be edited so nobhead defense lawyers can’t exploit. Which is what is happening.

    Violent criminals, rapists, murders, terrorists – all get to stay here and it’s our communities that fall victim to these people.

17. None, none have been stopped by the ECHR. The deportations have been stopped by UK judges interpretation of the ECHR laws. Other countries in the ECHR have high levels of deportations. We do not need to sever ties with Europe further.

18. Torygraph again going after ECHR.

    Desperate to turn people against your own rights with the gaslighting, so they can be stripped away next times Tories or Reform (God help) get into power.

19. Because it’s probably a lot and would fuel the discussion of taking human rights laws into our own hands

20. If other ECHR countries manage to deport criminals while upholding human rights, why does the UK struggle? Feels like a government competence issue rather than an ECHR problem.

21. Torygraph openly campaigning for the UK to leave ECHR

22. Reform now gave access to these figures and will drop them in the run up to election.

23. The ECHR is destroying the UK and the lives of British people.

24. Que the bottom 24% of British society flooding these comments about how we desperately need to sign away our human rights because too many brown people.

25. As much as I don’t like the stance they’re taking the ECHR is WAY bigger than deportation rights, and the people wanting to make us leave it are only in it to exploit the lack of rights you’ll have

26. I guarantee they have it just its not made available for external consumption. It would be like HMRC not knowing how many people dont pay tax

27. I see myself as a moderate..

    However, this is an ABSOLUTE left wing echo chamber

    ..”but, but it must have been Labour”

    Until you actually read the FACTS ” None of the deportations” have come from Labour agreements.

    Of course, most will come out in hives at that..

28. Getting rid of the ECHR to stick it to immigrants is about as stupid as disbanding the fire service to make sure they don’t douse a blaze at a foreigner’s house.

    Remember when we voted to end Free Movement then realised that our free movement ended too?

29. Can’t imagine this inflaming the immigration argument any further

30. Without disclosure, it is reasonable to assume “Every single deportation has been halted by ECHR”

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