The combined revenue of the top four richest countries in Europe is 10x more than Russa’s revenue. Europe’s population is 740 million. Russia’s is 143 million. I think it’s time Europe made it clearer we’re not afraid of Russia. With our combined strength we would decimate Russia and they know it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_by_tax_revenue_to_GDP_ratio

by kemb0

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  1. it doesnt matter when you dont actually use your tax money on defense…russia has less but it uses it more..money value doesnt matter..bullets…trained soldiers…guns matter…basic training is 6 months we still havent ramped up draftign what are we going to fight with? ping pong rackets?

  2. That’s why they seek to divide us.

    Also, don’t forget their Soviet era stockpile has been destroyed in Ukraine.

    If it wasn’t for traitor Trump, they’d be screwed

  3. And furthermore, Russia’s revenues are about equal to those of the Netherlands. Let that sink in.

  4. Will the new Europeans fight for Europe? Somehow I doubt it.

  5. Europe needs to wake the fuck up.

    If what russia was doing in ukraine wasnt satisfactory(according to plan) they would have ended it now

    USA has fallen. Now they only need europe to break next. And theyre using the same tactics they used for USA. Dividing. Buying up politicians etc

    Why do you think trump suddenly calls Zelensky a dictator? He (and his handler) want an election so they can install their puppet there as well.

    This isnt reserved for ukraine either. The rest of europe is about to get fucked, hard.

    Unless we unite. And end the war. No matter the costs.

    History will favour us if we do so. If not, we perish

  6. Our best chance is to truly allow the Ukrainian forces into our common defense. They are the strongest army in Europe right now.

  7. Would anyone else back Russia if Europe actually went to war with Russia? As in China or the USA? Even India?

  8. Gigantic and influential banking system and massive service sector of economy won’t help you much when you simply need well equipped boots on the ground.

    When it comes to industry and making it’s own weapons then Europe was really toothless until very recently. And it still is not up to par with Russia.

  9. I keep reading that Europe is a « third power » after US and China. And I don’t agree. Europe is strong. The world will soon remember. I sense from afar a change similar to what is happening in my beloved Canada. We are all waking up, and we are finding that we are strong! Fuck autocracy, democracy will always bring out the best in people, democracy will always build the most productive economies, and democracy will always be a better reason to fight.

  10. I keep reading that Europe is a « third power » after US and China. And I don’t agree. Europe is strong. The world will soon remember. I sense from afar a change similar to what is happening in my beloved Canada. We are all waking up, and we are finding that we are strong! Fuck autocracy, democracy will always bring out the best in people, democracy will always build the most productive economies, and democracy will always be a better reason to fight.

  11. National GDP of Finland is 300 billion, 15 % of Russia’s GDP. Finland has 5,5 million people, 4 % of Russia’s population. In addition, wealth distribution in Finland is much more equal than in Russia.

    Differences in living standards are pretty staggering.

  12. But what if they have the pee tape? Check and mate /s

  13. You can’t beat Russia by waving around superior GDP numbers. You need to invest in military. I think it is clear that Donald Trump is an unreliable partner and will not come to Europe’s aid.

  14. Im 100% convinced that if Russia were to fall, half of the people there would probably try to become independent. Never forget Russia is basically a bunch of entitled asshole in the main cities that screw everyone else in the country

  15. And still they have the largest country in the world with most materials. They’re a lot of big talk and threats. The biggest support of oligarchs in the world.

    Of course they are dangerous but if we have to, we can cut the head of the snake. Look via a maps app at their infrastructure and ours. They have a few high roads and they all lead to Moscow. We have hundreds of large capitals and bases and if we want we can turn the tables around and take them out within a week. They wouldn’t know where to hit us. Cause we come at them from 100 directions and we know where to hit them specifically.

  16. *”I think it’s time Europe made it clearer we’re not afraid of Russia.”* Well it’s like saying police should make clear they are not afraid of criminals. Yeah, they should not be afraid of criminals but their job does not end there.

    Europe is being threatened by Russia. Russia needs to get it’s teeth kicked in. Stop it with this cucked shit “we could beat it”, put up or shut up.

  17. The EU needs a combined military. That means common training, common parts, common command structure, common military budget, etc. European MIC is shockingly more expensive than the USA. More than double, for less results. Because it is so fractured.

    The EU should also be a member of NATO. Hear me out!! An attack on the EU (an attack on any EU member) would trigger article 5. Which would involve Canada, USA, The UK, etc.

    There are gonna be members who don’t want this. So fully embrace tiered togetherness.

    Those nations who are ready to combine, create The United Federation of Europe. The United Federation of Europe could be a super state within a lesser combined confederation called The Confederation of European States. That would be for EU members who want a closer relationship, but not ready to fully combine. And the Confederation of European States would be a member of the European Union. The EU would be a place for those who are satisfied with the status quo. And the EU in its entirety should become a member of NATO.

    Also NATO representation should not shrink just because they are a member of both. The EU should just have its own representative along with all other current and future members of both the EU and NATO. To be clear, joining the EU would not limit representation in NATO.

  18. Yes just give them the part of Ukraine they have and let’s make peace

  19. We have more money, we have more people.

    BUT, we have much less weapons and people willing to die fighting.

    Some countries like France were about to completely shift to only few special forces + nuclear weapons, just a few years ago. We don’t even conscript anymore in most countries.

    Just look at the tanks and shells production. We have like 5K tanks today in the whole Europe, down from 15K in the 2000s.

    We need a complete rebuild of our military forces in ground, navy, air and cyber forces, and FAST.

  20. Everyone knows this. It’s why Russia attacked Ukraine, a non EU and non NATO member. And why we barely provide anything to Ukraine, because that’s already enough to win.

    And our WORST fear is that we end this conflict to soon, with Russia not collapsing enough if we were to ever provide too much aid.

  21. The word “decimate” followed by the word “Russia” is music to my ears.

  22. But they about to take Trump ultimatum and force Ukraine capitulation

  23. Seriously, Ukraine wrecked the Russian military with hand me down weapons and their hands tied behind their back with restrictions. Europe, even in their current state, would run show on the Russians.

  24. Sadly none of this matters. We have stuff to lose. They don’t. We’re sensitive to an interest hike due to conflict. We have paved roads and indoor plumbing and if any of that is threatened we quickly vote someone in who will make sure the plumbing works even if we must please Putin. We’d never accept large casualties.

    Meanwhile in Russia they have 100M who are basically brainwashed to believe that it’s patriotic to pay 10x as much for butter, and who doesn’t care about minor stuff like whether the plumbing works or whether Ilya comes home again from the war or how many legs he has.

    It’s a scary country to deal with because they have nothing to lose.

  25. But they tip the scales on psychopathy and willingness to send their people off to be slaughtered.

  26. I swear people think that the Russian economy dwarfs the UK or Germany.

  27. Well Hungary and Slovackia would be on Russias side and looks like Germany might be next

  28. Which makes it even more insane that we dont arm ourselves to the teeth (with our own european created military equiment)

    Then we can say “big no” to Russia and USA. Fuck off. Touch Ukraine again and we will take land from you to form a “secure zone” against you.

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