John Swinney: BREAKING NEWS : @theSNP WIN Kilmarnock North by-election. Well done to Cllr Caroline Barton and her team. Perfect start to the Scottish Labour Conference.
* The SNP vote was down by 11.8%
* Labour’s vote was static despite everything
* Reform came in as first timers with 10.1% – apparently from the Tories and SNP, because see above
On a whopping 2110 ballot papers and 21.7% turnout.
I don’t think anyone should be ramraiding the Moët bottling plant just yet.
No one tell SeaOwl, they’ll pop a blood vessel.
Where is that silly Unionist sea bird?! They will be clutching at their transphobic pearls.
*gnashing teeth*
Great news!
21% turn out. Folk love a moan about the council but they won’t vote.
Previous result in 3 member ward was
* SNP 2
* Lab 1
So I’d be surprised if the majority party didn’t pick up the seat – this is the morm in council by-elections as the vote is across the whole multi member ward yet takes no account of the other members.
The turnout is half the main election
Oooooh Kilmarnock north. Indy coming any day now keep up the faith folks.
Seriously this is like Rangers including the petrofac cup in their short list of honours since 2k12. Big John should ask Nicola for a shot of the camper. Get a few decals on it and make a day of it 🤣
In a recent thread about a Labour win, I think it had a title like ‘SNP Collapse’ I pointed out that a by election in a multi-ward STV vote is inherently unfair and it wasn’t a particularly noteworthy outcome. It wasn’t exactly a popular comment with the usual BrtiNat posters saying the result was the final nail in the SNP coffin or something.
Anyway – This is much the same, its an SNP strong hold, but not enough usually to get all three seats.
As always the result isn’t the most interesting thing, but the second preferences.
212 people voted reform. Only a further 29 voted reform as second preference to green and Lib Dems.
But the interesting stuff is in column 6 where those 212 (or so) reform voters mainly went to Labour and the Independent (anyone know anything about him?) Column 8 suggests a huge 300 or so Labour voters had SNP second (we don’t know what the SNP folks had second, but it was this that won the other by election).
Bearing in mind all the previous times Ive complained about anybody reading anything into a council by election there is a sign that the Reform vote isn’t that big, but big enough to worry about in splitting marginals. And that those folks are significantly ‘big party protest vote’ more than Reform supporters.
Too bad the SNP has Forbes in it, who might as well belong in Reform UK. Not voting for you fuckers!
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By election so a bit representative of… not much
Oh no, this is terrible for the SNP, somehow. /s
* The SNP vote was down by 11.8%
* Labour’s vote was static despite everything
* Reform came in as first timers with 10.1% – apparently from the Tories and SNP, because see above
On a whopping 2110 ballot papers and 21.7% turnout.
https://newsroom.east-ayrshire.gov.uk/news/east-ayrshire-council-by-election-result
https://x.com/ElectionMapsUK/status/1892718795854381260
I don’t think anyone should be ramraiding the Moët bottling plant just yet.
No one tell SeaOwl, they’ll pop a blood vessel.
Where is that silly Unionist sea bird?! They will be clutching at their transphobic pearls.
*gnashing teeth*
Great news!
21% turn out. Folk love a moan about the council but they won’t vote.
Previous result in 3 member ward was
* SNP 2
* Lab 1
So I’d be surprised if the majority party didn’t pick up the seat – this is the morm in council by-elections as the vote is across the whole multi member ward yet takes no account of the other members.
The turnout is half the main election
Oooooh Kilmarnock north. Indy coming any day now keep up the faith folks.
Seriously this is like Rangers including the petrofac cup in their short list of honours since 2k12. Big John should ask Nicola for a shot of the camper. Get a few decals on it and make a day of it 🤣
In a recent thread about a Labour win, I think it had a title like ‘SNP Collapse’ I pointed out that a by election in a multi-ward STV vote is inherently unfair and it wasn’t a particularly noteworthy outcome. It wasn’t exactly a popular comment with the usual BrtiNat posters saying the result was the final nail in the SNP coffin or something.
Anyway – This is much the same, its an SNP strong hold, but not enough usually to get all three seats.
As always the result isn’t the most interesting thing, but the second preferences.
Heres the table
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmarnock_North_(ward)#2025_by-election](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilmarnock_North_(ward)#2025_by-election)
212 people voted reform. Only a further 29 voted reform as second preference to green and Lib Dems.
But the interesting stuff is in column 6 where those 212 (or so) reform voters mainly went to Labour and the Independent (anyone know anything about him?) Column 8 suggests a huge 300 or so Labour voters had SNP second (we don’t know what the SNP folks had second, but it was this that won the other by election).
Bearing in mind all the previous times Ive complained about anybody reading anything into a council by election there is a sign that the Reform vote isn’t that big, but big enough to worry about in splitting marginals. And that those folks are significantly ‘big party protest vote’ more than Reform supporters.
Too bad the SNP has Forbes in it, who might as well belong in Reform UK. Not voting for you fuckers!
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