How are the tax-plans of the parties and your expected change to your actual income affecting your vote tomorrow?
by Tokata0
How are the tax-plans of the parties and your expected change to your actual income affecting your vote tomorrow?
by Tokata0
13 comments
Completely irrelevant. These tax plans are more marketing and not promises that are binding. The last 4 governments also all announced before that they reduce taxes etc. But they got increased every single time. We will get fucked hard by the retirement issue – it‘s not preventable
I am not rich enough to afford to vote FDP, CDU and not dumb enough to vote AfD
It’ll tickle down any day now, just be patient.
Not a fan, even though I would be positively affected by it. The graph is also suboptimal imo. You can better use the original source: [https://nachrichten.idw-online.de/2025/01/20/wie-sich-die-wahlprogramme-fiskalisch-auswirken](https://nachrichten.idw-online.de/2025/01/20/wie-sich-die-wahlprogramme-fiskalisch-auswirken)
And the associated study: [https://ftp.zew.de/pub/zew-docs/gutachten/Bundestagswahlprogramme_ZEW_2025.pdf](https://ftp.zew.de/pub/zew-docs/gutachten/Bundestagswahlprogramme_ZEW_2025.pdf) (This is a download, you can also get it from the other link if you scroll down)
Major issue is that both parties are gonna fuck the economy while doing so: [https://www.ifo.de/pressemitteilung/2025-02-13/ifo-institut-kritisiert-wahlprogramme-2025](https://www.ifo.de/pressemitteilung/2025-02-13/ifo-institut-kritisiert-wahlprogramme-2025)
Tbf, FDP will at least create actual economic growth while doing so: [https://www.lbbw.de/konzern/news-and-service/research/wahlprogramme-2025/wahlprogramme-2025_ajm9muwv8k_d.html](https://www.lbbw.de/konzern/news-and-service/research/wahlprogramme-2025/wahlprogramme-2025_ajm9muwv8k_d.html)
These are meaningless to me, way too reductive to be useful. I care about coalitions.
Based on current polling, CDU will lead the next coalition, and the only question is how many of the small parties will fail to clear the 5%/3 rep hurdles. It will be CDU + SPD unless several of the borderline parties clear the hurdles, because their relative proportions of votes based on current polling will form a majority if all parties around 5% drop out. If CDU + SPD is not enough, it will be a question of CDU+SPD+FDP or CDU+SPD+Grüne I think, which will involve a big struggle within the CDU/CSU as Söder hates the greens. If several of the small parties clear the hurdle, but FDP doesn’t, then that will cause CDU+SPD to not have a majority, and then the internal struggle in CDU/CSU will determine whether it’s CDU+SPD+Grüne or CDU+AfD.
If you want to minimize the chance of CDU+AfD, my opinion is that it’s better to vote for any party that is clearly going over the 5%/3 rep hurdle.
If you want:
* CDU+SPD: give your votes to SPD (CDU strategically cannibalizes your vote even if you like them)
* CDU+SPD+Grüne: you actually want as many non-FDP borderline parties to cross the 5%/3 rep hurdle as possible so that CDU+SPD don’t have a simple majority but they can’t pick up FDP instead, so strangely IMO it’s better to vote for a borderline outsider party like BSW, at least for one of your votes. I think Die Linke is clearly going over, so that would not be as strategically useful.
* CDU+SPD+FDP: give your votes to FDP so they actually clear the hurdle and dilute the CDU+SPD majority.
I’ve seen these graphs a lot on reddit in recent days and I find them quite useless. Yes, it’s always good to show that “right-wing” economic policies do not benefit lower income people, but the data that these graphics are build own is questionable at best. You simply can’t calculate things that easily, and so much of it is based on promises anyway, that often tend to not come true after an election.
Not in the slightest. I can always tighten my belt: I feel there are more important things to think about than my personal chances of a tax break.
Every election parties promis tax cuts to everyone. Every government cycle taxes stay the same.
I would benefit the most with right wing parties, but I’m still bit going to vote for them. I’d rather have the same amount of money and a functioning country and society.
I would benefit the most with right wing parties (or die Linke), but I’m still not going to vote for them. I’d rather have the same amount of money and a functioning country and society and with regards to Die Linke, they’re not going to be in government anyway and their foreign policy among other things, are not great either.
First of all vote democrats and not fascists or their friends.
By this you already chose tax cuts for low and middle incomes in some way.
Funny, with few exceptions almost universal rises in available income **promised** across parties.
Who pays for rising social security costs? Who knows. Demographic change and skyrocketing pension payments? Don’t seem to exist in this alternate reality.
Not at all.
I have a high income, but I am voting against my own financial benefit.
Because there are much more important issues in our society than my personal greed.
If anything, the inequality is already so extreme, it is destroying our society. In a way that poorer people turn away from liberal democracy towards absolute amateurs who give them nothing but also poor migrants as something to hate and as scapegoats for their struggle.
We need to get the rich to finance a rebuild of our crumbling infrastructure, invest into digitization and into our failing economy (not cut spending even more, how dumb is that?)
And the biggest threat of all in the coming decades, climate change, has been completely ignored, pushed away by the “evil migrant” hysteria of the right.
I want this country to have free, democratic and live-worthy future, so I vote against my own bank account.
There is no fun in having a few thousands more when you’re already rich but the world around you is destroyed by hate, ignorance and greed.
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