
Ukraine has already won the war. It only remains to consolidate the achieved results, – Head of the Council of Reservists of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ivan Tymochko
https://espreso.tv/viyna-z-rosiyeyu-ukraina-vzhe-vigrala-viynu-potribno-lish-zakripiti-dosyagnuti-rezultati-viyskovosluzhbovets-timochko
by Flimsy_Pudding1362
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Translation:
> Russia has already lost the war against Ukraine and is well aware of this.
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> This opinion was expressed by the Head of the Council of Reservists of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Ivan Tymochko, on Espreso TV.
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> “We have already won the war. Now the question is consolidating the results. Three years ago, Putin demanded the whole of Ukraine and, at the same time, planned to capture the Baltics and Poland. Now, despite having significant resources and support from China, Iran, and North Korea, he is claiming only four regions that he has failed to fully occupy,” he stated.
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> Currently, Putin is demanding Ukraine’s capitulation because he has failed to achieve this either militarily or politically, even despite the influence of agents and the bribery of European officials and politicians, Tymochko noted.
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> “In the past, intoxicated by his successes, Putin ordered the Russian Duma to include Ukrainian lands in the Russian Constitution as subjects of the Federation. You can include anything you want, but that does not change the reality on the ground,” he added.
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> Given the enemy’s objectives, in essence, we have won the war. Now it is crucial to avoid internal conflicts and disputes because, in the past, the enemy often exploited them. The consolidation of Ukrainians is extremely important right now, the serviceman emphasized.
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> “The informational noise on the international stage is merely an attempt by some politicians to shape their image or strengthen their positions. There is a huge gap between desire and reality, which must be filled with hard work and consolidation with all partners and allies. We are monitoring the situation and preparing to celebrate a stable victory, although this will still take time,” Tymochko concluded.
tbf noone won from this war, milions dead/injured/displaced [not Ukraine fault obviously] but ya noone won anything only lose for all world
I mostly agree with this assessment. Considering their ORIGINAL objectives and comparing it to where THEY ARE and what its cost, the Russians have failed. But this is an extremely hard sell since most people simply look at a map and say… well… no. Trump is also more or less handing them a victory.
I wouldn’t go as far as saying that Ukraine won the war, but Russia definitely lost it. The population of Russia keeps declining and becoming old, with virtually 0 immigration. Edit: before the war they had actual positive net migration rate (more people moving in than out). That is long gone.
Depleted Soviet weapons will soon be greeted by elderly uneducated Russians. This is the reality of Russia. The dream of conquering the lost Soviet occupied lands will soon be replaced by the nightmare of acute depopulation and poverty.
Historians in the future will say Russians lost the war a year ago, Ukraine is very strong now military, shame they never got all the patriot’s promised as Russia still logging in drones and missiles indiscriminately
Russia using outdated tactics in the battlefield, blindly sending in attacks in the same formation, only sheer weight of numbers on their side
The country is in a mess economy wise, only arms production making look good, food shortages, industrial parts shortage for aircraft and industry due to sanctions. Their oil refinery plants in disarray, hit day after day
Huge interest rates keeping the ruble in a false high
keep the pressure on, and they will fold, give them nothing, except maybe asylum for “Krasnov”
I agree, if we could take a deep breath and remain detached for a moment, we would agree that all this late hoolabaloo will remain one of the most pathetic cases of someone making a fool of themselves. All of them: Trump, Putin, and their goonies. It takes a lot of cool though and luckily we have better persons in the right positions. Slava Ukraini, forza!
The russian dug themselves in really good. Its hard to recapture the lost lands. But Russia really is a spent fighter. The best thing that can happen for Russia is a stable peaceful front. This way they can regain strength and rebuild their army
Initially, Ukraine had the opportunity to join the EU without having to join NATO. Later, it could have signed the Istanbul Agreement without losing regions in Donbass as part of the country. Now, being torn apart by Russia and the USA is being called a victory?
This is so funny how people in the comments have been convincing themselves for the third year that Russia lost.
Let’s start with the facts:
In Ukraine, people are grabbed on the streets and forcibly sent to the front. (There are hundreds of videos showing people shouting for help as they are shoved into a car.)
In Russia, volunteers are fighting for relatively good money.
Since 2022, Ukraine has not carried out a single successful offensive (maybe Kursk, but they will soon be driven out of there). It is only losing territory.
By December 2024, Ukraine had already seen 16,000 deserters.
Ukraine’s GDP has collapsed and is still tens of percent below its 2021 level. Its economy has literally been reduced to just agriculture—there is nothing else. Over 50% of its budget consists of foreign grants and loans.
Russia’s GDP is growing by 3–4% annually.
And most importantly, the war is not over yet. It won’t be until Putin decides to end it. There is a possibility that the Ukrainians will run out before Russia runs out of the means to finance its army.
They should have a victory celebration on Feb 24th too
It’s true. Russia tried to take Ukraine, they were fought back to a small slice, and their occupation of that slice is untenable.
Russia can try whatever nonsense they want and have fake celebrations but they will spend the next decade or two fighting a bombing insurgency and assassination plots deep inside Russia itself while under sanction.
All power to Ukraine.
Considering Ukraine’s survival as an independent nation was the number one issue then it’s undeniable that Ukraine is victorious.
Ukraine’s losses include land and, much more importantly, lost people (soldiers and civilians). But in the end they showed that Russia is a paper tiger that is woefully inadequately prepared against virtually any western nation. Had this been a war against NATO and nukes weren’t involved, Russia would have been wiped off the face of the Earth in weeks.
Russia lost this war no matter what. Lost it a year ago. Whatever gains they make, no matter what Trump does to bootlick for Putin, their aura of invincibility is trashed. They’re on the same level as North Korea. A pissy little rogue state that’ll start trouble and hide behind their nukes if anyone scolds them for it.
At least until they build up their military again– but even then, they’re so far behind western tech that it’s not even close.
That’s one of those things that will probably age like milk. Especially if Ukraine will have to give away its resurces to the US for protection.
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