‘If a landlord can buy a log cabin for €30,000 and charge €2,000 a month, it’s a no-brainer’

by SUPERMACS_DOG_BURGER

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  2. I lived in one for a couple of years. Honestly couldn’t tell the difference between that and an apartment from the inside.

  3. And if lots of people can build such log cabins, the rent needed to pay for one would go down.

  4. This reminds of a landlord i had who, despite already having 4 of us in the house (one room being a converted garage with no radiators) informed us he might want to turn our dining room into another bedroom. Every rented house with a garden now will have one of these yokes. 

  5. Who are these young people buying log cabins? Even land on donedeal is outrageous. You can go on daft and look at the land for sale and the biggest shit heaps of a field are up for sale at like 250k

    I know a few people who built granny flats onto parents house but nobody is buying land it’s crazy prices

  6. The log cabins would also be to a higher standard then some of the places that are already being rented

  7. For permanent habitation it needs both planning and building approval.

  8. I hate the state of housing in this country. I hate that landlords have all the power. I hate that tenants have no rights. I hate that laws and rules are not enforced and may as well not exist. I hate that I’ll never own a home unless I take on an insane mortgage. I hate that no one actually wants to fix any of these problems. They say they do, but when you outline to reality and consequences of fixing these problems, they turn tail and run. It’s a mess we don’t want to clean up because it’s a profitable mess that benefits property owners.

  9. Will they allow the couple that where forced to take it down put it back up

  10. To be fair I own a home with the Ex been 5 years of hell. If I can get one of these I. My garden ill be a happy camper.

  12. Yet at the same time D.C C. prosecute people for placing small bike sheds in their green

  13. I don’t understand the problem here. I’d rather rent a log cabin in a garden than live with my parents. Why not do it give people a choice

  14. A coworker of mine rents a house he bought in Finglas to a young family.

    Last summer he was contemplating building something like this out the back garden of that house and also renting that out, with the family in the main house. Asked him would the family not go mental since it’s a serious invasion of privacy, he just said he’d fuck them out if they said a word.

    I’d say himself and many like them are licking their lips at this new legislation

  15. Ah you guys are taking a play from the old American capitalist miseryscape. It’s terrible for the housing market, regular people, and the people who have to live around it.

  16. I 100% understand the concern people have about this stuff.

    But even allowing this on a temporary basis has the potential to really ease off the rental crisis.

    Ok, so we’ve got landlords sticking these in back gardens and people renting them.

    That’s rental supply going up, which means stable or lowering rents.

    But you’ve also got other scenarios here. Think about all those people who’ve moved back into their parents’ houses to save money for mortgages.

    For every one of them, there are two more who can’t or won’t move back home. Parents don’t have room, or whatever. So they’re still renting.

    Instead if those parents say, “We’ll stick a temporary house in the back garden for you”, then moving back home to save becomes a much more appealing prospect for everyone.

    And that reduces demand in the rental market, stabilising rents.

    Will this be abused and used to stick in ten lads from Asia? Yes.

    Is that a good enough reason to not do it? No. The potential benefits to a country in a housing crisis are too big to be ignored.

  18. Materials, foundation, tying into water and sewer, power, insulation, basic finishes and labour are not 30,000. I have no idea how this could be done for under 200k, even with no land cost. At that point, I can justify rent at 1500 if I’m not declaring the income. If you’re doing it legally, then yes, it’s probably close to 2k if I also include utilities and taxes.

    The solution is greater density in the city. We need to build vertically and not worry about whether someone loses their view of the scenic Poolbeg incinerator.

  19. This is so easy to stop, just put in a clause saying it’s only open to non planning to immediate family and must be removed when not used by them

  20. Anyone know what we’re actually dealing with price wise , for a 3 bed with electricity and water heating , these have about a 50 upsells on them the price is not even close to what a finish budget would for basics alone

  21. My last landlord had 4 properties. He refused for ten years to replace the furniture which was all broken, then when I left he sent me a fucking invoice for furniture.

    This man is a 70 year old retired hairdresser. Landlords genuinely think they’re owed free money for nothing.

  23. Great to see entrepreneurship like this in the country!

  24. “The demographic of his customers is “young couples with a child who are disheartened and broken””
    ### FUCK OFF, *SLIMEY* CUNT.

  25. I remember students in Cork staying in sheds and being fleeced with rent , I stayed in a house with six lads who kept the place well and even fixed doors and plaster when we just moved in , the landlord Fred Stone in bishops town took a few Grand in deposits but never returned any of it and mysteriously wouldn’t answer his phone when I rang him , landlords are thieving scumbags in general , not all of them but most.

  26. I doubt this will change much. Even though planning permission was needed for log cabins before, many people have been putting them in their back garden for the last ten years regardless. It’s not like the authorities have been going around checking people’s back gardens for them. I know 5 people on my road already have them up already 7+ years.

  27. you gotta give it to FF-FG, they managed to create a policy that lowers quality of life *and* bolster profiteering by landlords at the same time

    just when i was about to call them useless 

  28. My boss brought home people from the outsource company we use in our job home to Ireland and has them living in the shed out her back and paying rent

    It’s money hungry cunts like this that will take the piss

  29. February 12 1796 – ‘Landlords have flinty hearts; no tears can move them.’
    From the diary of Wolfe Tone

  31. They should adjust the planning process for all modular homes/log cabins. It’s not fair that it can only be in someone’s garden. People could afford some land and a log cabin if they don’t get fucked on the planning process

  32. It’s like the wind that shakes the barely, vera gets burned out by the tans and goes to live in the fuckin chicken coop. That’s where we’re at? Economic bayonet at the back, emigrate or live in a fuckin garden shed for 2k a month… When will we have enough and revolt? 

  33. Flash forward 20 years and we’ll have people complaining about the slums out people’s backs. This kind of downsizing of accommodation for the same high rent is the exact same thing that happened in Victorian London. Buildings got built smaller and smaller, stairs got steeper and steeper, and conditions got worse and worse as too many people were cramped in.

    Maybe these cabins would be a good thing for single young people. But what happens when they have a family, and all they can afford is yet another cabin? When we see 3, 4, 5, 6 people per cabin, two parents and their kids. All jammed into this tiny space. With the high rent they still can’t afford to save for the deposit for a mortgage so buying a house is out of the question.

    So, we’re on track for slums.

  35. The cabin that cost €30k two weeks ago is probably €50k now.

  36. Such predatory behaviour with the current rent prices

  37. What if we just completely and utterly deregulated the rental sector. (Except notice protections) Just let anybody rent anything sort of room/building. I wonder what we’d get then?

  39. I looked at getting a granny flat back in 2019, it would have cost about 70,000 and was going to house a nephew, ended up not being able to do it as it wouldn’t be connected to the house. So i really like this idea, but as the nephew has moved home, it would now become my man cave.

  40. I hate that these sheds are referred to as log cabins. Not a log in sight.

  41. I used to work with a guy who lived in some form of a “granny flat” in a garden on Clonliffe Road.

    It had a coin meter for the electric.

    He couldn’t believe the amount of money he was putting in, but was told he couldn’t get a connection in with a bill.

    One night, he comes to the pub and told us that, before he came out, the electric had run out again and he just thought “fuck it, I’m off to the pub in 45 minutes, it’s still bright. I’ll just leave it for now. 10 minutes later the lights come on. He looks out and sees the landlord walking back into the house. It turned out that the coin meter was running both the main house and the granny flat, and he had been paying for both.

  43. Paying almost the price of a house for a log cabin in somebodies garden just for the luxury of having your own place. Ireland fixed 👍

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