As it stands, Elon helped AfD lose 5 -10 % of their voters
Thanks Elon 😬
Funny, in Sweden we have implemented many of the far-right ideas and it hasn’t made much of a difference.
CDU 29%
AfD 20%
Thank God 49% voted right.
Imagine thinking you need far right voters to win elections.
Lets rather not do anything against misinformation on social media, high rents and massive wealth inequality but present 10 talking points that are close to what the AfD says but not the same. That might work.
Not true. Merz has a lot of ideas about how to take over AfD positions. Which, as history shows, will never end up making the radical party more eligible.
Send another million of migrants to their city to teach the poors a lesson
What do you mean with “tried nothing”, exactly?
I’m all for implementing the solution the psychologist came up with for Ned.
you don’t get extremist voters by adapting their policy in a lighter form. that method has been tried and failed by a million different centre left parties worldwide (see democrats in the US basically becoming a republican light party to try and court moderate republicans, and completely abandoning their progressive base). You convince them by showing how strange the extremists are, and how they completely go against the basic concept of human decency and a right for refuge.
This goes for the people too. March all you want against the Nazis but if you dont fucking try and understand why people are voting nothing will ever change.
Same with french parties
Left wing voters in the UK want a PR system, they seem to always forget it would create a large far right party in parliament big enough to force other parties to have to work with them in order to get anything passed
AfD tried its luck, and failed. Not winning the elections, not in coalition. Move on Alice.
You know, you could do what Bismarck did with the pension system. The majority of AfD voters want something done about immigration, since you don’t want them to write laws on the matter you do it yourself in much moderate terms.
Germany has 4 (or is it 5?) years until the next elections where AfD will most probably become the biggest party in the country, even just admitting that there is a problem at all without doing anything would drastically reduce the far right’s popularity
This obsession with regaining far-right voters misses the point. The amount of protest voters in the AfD ranks may have been considerable in 2017 or before, but once people vote AfD again and again despite all their hare-brained ideas and the utter incompetence of their personnel, one should accept the possibility that they actually mean it. The name of the game is solidifying the democratic center and curbing the hemorrhage to the far-right. Yes that means tackling immigration too, in a sensible way. What it doesn’t mean is jumping on the bandwagon of far-right rhetoric and alarmism that makes people go “huh looks like the far-right was spot on all along”. That’s what British Conservatives are doing, and who’s leading UK national polls right now?
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As it stands, Elon helped AfD lose 5 -10 % of their voters
Thanks Elon 😬
Funny, in Sweden we have implemented many of the far-right ideas and it hasn’t made much of a difference.
CDU 29%
AfD 20%
Thank God 49% voted right.
Imagine thinking you need far right voters to win elections.
Lets rather not do anything against misinformation on social media, high rents and massive wealth inequality but present 10 talking points that are close to what the AfD says but not the same. That might work.
Not true. Merz has a lot of ideas about how to take over AfD positions. Which, as history shows, will never end up making the radical party more eligible.
Send another million of migrants to their city to teach the poors a lesson
What do you mean with “tried nothing”, exactly?
I’m all for implementing the solution the psychologist came up with for Ned.
you don’t get extremist voters by adapting their policy in a lighter form. that method has been tried and failed by a million different centre left parties worldwide (see democrats in the US basically becoming a republican light party to try and court moderate republicans, and completely abandoning their progressive base). You convince them by showing how strange the extremists are, and how they completely go against the basic concept of human decency and a right for refuge.
This goes for the people too. March all you want against the Nazis but if you dont fucking try and understand why people are voting nothing will ever change.
Same with french parties
Left wing voters in the UK want a PR system, they seem to always forget it would create a large far right party in parliament big enough to force other parties to have to work with them in order to get anything passed
AfD tried its luck, and failed. Not winning the elections, not in coalition. Move on Alice.
You know, you could do what Bismarck did with the pension system. The majority of AfD voters want something done about immigration, since you don’t want them to write laws on the matter you do it yourself in much moderate terms.
Germany has 4 (or is it 5?) years until the next elections where AfD will most probably become the biggest party in the country, even just admitting that there is a problem at all without doing anything would drastically reduce the far right’s popularity
This obsession with regaining far-right voters misses the point. The amount of protest voters in the AfD ranks may have been considerable in 2017 or before, but once people vote AfD again and again despite all their hare-brained ideas and the utter incompetence of their personnel, one should accept the possibility that they actually mean it. The name of the game is solidifying the democratic center and curbing the hemorrhage to the far-right. Yes that means tackling immigration too, in a sensible way. What it doesn’t mean is jumping on the bandwagon of far-right rhetoric and alarmism that makes people go “huh looks like the far-right was spot on all along”. That’s what British Conservatives are doing, and who’s leading UK national polls right now?
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