“Europe Must Unite – The US Is No Longer a Reliable Partner – Uncertain if NATO Will Remain in Its Current Form” Standpoint of the new German Government (Full Translation in Comments)



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by Epidemiolomic

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  1. Translation Friedrich Merz: The absolute priority from my point of view is that Europeans come to an understanding and stand united. At the moment, a large part of European politics is taking place without Germany. Of course, this is also related to the election campaign and the current transitional phase. However, I am in close contact with many prime ministers as well as heads of state and government of the European Union. For me, the absolute priority will be to strengthen Europe as quickly as possible so that we can gradually achieve true independence from the United States.

    I would not have believed that I would ever have to say something like this on a television program, but after Donald Trump’s statements last week, it is clear that the Americans—at least this part of the American government—are largely indifferent to Europe’s fate. I am very curious to see how we approach the NATO summit at the end of June—whether we will still be able to speak of NATO in its current form or whether we will have to establish an independent European defense capability much sooner.

    This is my absolute priority, and I have no illusions about what is happening in America. Just look at the recent days and how Elon Musk has intervened in the German election campaign—an unprecedented event. The interventions from Washington have been no less dramatic, drastic, and ultimately outrageous than those we have seen from Moscow. We are under massive pressure from both sides, which is why my absolute priority now is to establish unity in Europe.

  3. That’s what Robert Habeck said almost verbatim 2min prior.

  4. This is exactly the sort of pragmatic approach Europe needs at this very sensitive moment. Let us hope the fine words translate into deeds.

  5. Thank god sanity prevails in Germany. At least for now.

  6. It’s not just that the Usans are indiferent to the EU’s fate. They are actively trying to boycott it.

  8. The collapse of transatlantic unity between European and American centrists is just one of many consequences of our election, but perhaps the saddest to me. It is the very fact we have so much in common that makes the current environment so deeply absurd. Godspeed Germany, et al

  10. We will remember your words and watch out if you live by them.

  11. Good. Now, with the FDP gone, please have the courage to ban X and other disinformation sources.

  12. Hear hear.

    We have the potential. Europe was at the center of the known world once, and it wasn’t even united.

    United and still with our civility and humanitarian values intact we can lead by example.

    Same thing for Canada, who could very well take this historical opportunity to surpass its neighbor by joining new economic partners.

  13. As a customer, you know what you have to do

    r/BuyFromEU

  14. Unity, thats what we need. Kick out orban and turbo on euro defence.

  15. He now has the mandate as the leader of the third largest economy in the world to kick vice president Mango ORange in the balls. We will see what his leader President Elonia has to say.

  16. As I said in the other thread, it’s especially remarkable for him to say these things as a CDU politician, knowing about the strong transatlantic tradition of the party since the Adenauer days.

    He even says himself that he can’t believe what he is saying, but this is the world we now live in.

    I do hope that action follows words and that we can achieve a strong and independent Europe. Merz not being afraid of confrontation is probably exactly what we need now, especially in contrast to the more “reserved” Scholz.

    Godspeed, Herr Merz. Long live a free and independent Europe!

  17. FINALLY!! A European leader unafraid to openly call things how they are.

    When Zelenskyy *very respectfully I might add* suggested trump’s disinformation bubble – Zelenskyy who undoubtedly has the most to lose from being honest, tremendous bravery – when he said that we had to witness a litany of European leaders mostly waffling, still playing peek-a-boo pretending no one sees what’s happening. Most supporting Zelenskyy and correcting that disinformation, but not addressing the trumpElephant in the room

    Unearned politeness will earn us little at this junction, if we just pretend that things are fine when they clearly aren’t.

    This is fresh air.
    Congratulations Germany 🇩🇪

  18. His analysis is correct. We need to act quickly and the only way we have a chance is to unite. Together we might weather the short term and build to rise from it. Divided we will, one by one, be vasallised or outrightly conquered by US or Russia.

  19. Hey Merz you get 2 years or less before MACRON is out and potentially replaced by LE PEN, you better act FAST.

  20. With each hour that passes now, I feel Europe and the UK is working hard towards coming together and I am heartened by this. Well done, Mr. Merz.

  21. Tomorrow morning I am slamming my money into EU defense stocks!

  22. I disagree with him in way to many points, but that was good and I really hope these are not only empty words this time. We need a strong Europe!

  23. The headline is wrong. There isn’t a new government in Germany yet. No party has the absolute majority. The CDU will probably lead the new government but they need to form a coalition with other parties first. It is even possible that no coalition is formed and new elections take place.

  25. I have nothing but love for Europe, it is where my ancestors are from. I understand this action, my heart is broken that it has come to this. Donald Trump is a cancer on the world.

  27. What he is saying here is right.

    But I just can’t trust this man, he is very emotional and moody, can change opinion very fast. I cannot trust him to not go into it with the AFD, but now I guess I have to.

    If he does Im gonna start learning Chinese the next day, that would be over.

  29. Germans, thank you! You are the main strength of the continent, and I truly believe that you have the power to unite Mother Europe and make her independent from anyone. You are also capable of bringing back the times when Europeans were truly listened to!

    I pray for the day when the White House, the Kremlin, and Beijing will respect and fear a united Europe.

    Once again, a huge thank you!

  30. I understand that Germany has a system of government similar to us in Finland. While it’s mostly certain that the largest party will have the “prime minister” post (chancellor in Germany), unlike in the first-past-the-post systems* they will typically need to negociate a coalition, and theoretically, might even drop from the government (though very unlikely considering the results).

    *) In voting systems where you select only one person from each constituency, votes for the “also running” are wasted – therefore, for smart voters, it makes sense to vote for the winner or the runner-up. These systems thus lead into polarizing two-party systems at the expense of other voices. A proportional voting system, like used in most multi-party democracies, tends to lead to three or four major parties with a couple of regional parties.

  31. It starts with banning Twitter across EU. Absolutely ridiculous how blatantly Musk was trying to swing the German election in the favour of a nazi party.

    The gloves are off, Musk and Trump are working in Russia’s interest. They are not even trying to hide it. The goal is to destabilise Europe. EU must act, they are in war, whether they realise it or not.

  32. The cut to Weidel’s smirk over Musk’s manipulation is quite something.

  33. Finally someone spoke like an european leader. Aggresively honest.

  34. I hope Merz delivers. Europe needs to finally be independent from USA first time since end of WW2. Europe for Europe.

  35. I would’ve voted CDU but I’m American so yea.

    My hope with Merz and Macron in office we will see Europe move towards more autonomy and build its military capability. I pray Trump doesn’t do even more crazy shit but wish us luck I can’t predict this guy anymore.

  36. Guys stop hailing him as a great politician or hero. This stance of his is about the only sensible thing that’s come out of his mouth recently, and who knows if he’ll stick to it. And he was by far not the only candidate who takes this stance. The rest of the time he uses derogatory populist language against immigrants and votes to uphold the illegality of abortion.

  37. Merz isn’t great, but on this issue, he is correct. He’s gonna suck on domestic policy but on foreign policy, he is going to be an improvement over Scholz. Baerbock being foreign minister didn’t help either. I can see him getting along better with Macron than Scholz did. Did Scholz even try to work with France at all? Would have missed it if he did :v

  38. Canadian here. NATO died a year ago when now POTUS Trump said he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that doesn’t pay enough. Without Article 5 commitment, what are we? For the incredibly naive “optimists”, there’s absolutely no ambiguity now with Trump clearly siding with Russia on Ukraine, berating the “enemy within” in Europe, and threatening to invade two NATO members. NATO is over. We need a new NATO IMMEDIATELY! We should dump Hungary and any other pro-Russian nations and bring Ukraine with its massive and experienced military into the alliance as well. War is coming. 🇨🇦🇮🇸🇬🇧🇳🇴🇸🇪🇫🇮🇪🇪🇱🇻🇱🇹🇵🇱🇩🇪🇩🇰🇳🇱🇧🇪🇱🇺🇫🇷🇪🇸🇵🇹🇮🇹🇨🇿🇸🇰🇸🇮🇭🇷🇲🇪🇦🇱🇽🇰🇲🇰🇬🇷🇷🇴🇧🇬🇹🇷🇺🇦

  39. I firmly believe Europe must look internally for its defense now. I think if Trump keeps threatening troop withdrawals and uncertainty around a US response to article 5, we need to be willing to call his bluff.

    Simply agree with him, thank him and the US for everything they’ve done for our security, but make it clear we understand it no longer works for them, and they want to pull their troops. And then offer to help him shut everything down in an orderly and timely fashion; every base and every bit of equipment all removed from western Europe. Ending with the closure of rammstein airbase; the US’s largest international logistics hub outside of the US, responsible for projecting the US footprint into Africa, the Middle East, and Asia. I am sure the US will figure something else out. 🤷‍♂️

    We should also agree with Trump regarding his remarks about the US staying out of European affairs; agree 100%. We shouldn’t concern the US with what’s going on in Ukraine or elsewhere in Europe for that matter. So we can all agree there’s need for the US to involve itself any further or take on any further negotiations on behalf of Ukraine.

    Longer term, Europe on the whole has to start planning for a post-US NATO. Whether the US leaves of its own accord and the treaty repurposed, or a new treaty supercedes it over time, Europe needs to unite in the face of threats both East and West and plan for a future of self reliance; defence must come from within. We will definitely be weakened massively without the US, but even without the US, the combined might of NATO would still kick the shit out of Russia right now, at least in a conventional war.

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