‘White genocide’ claimed by Elon Musk is imaginary, says South African court

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/24/white-genocide-claim-elon-musk-imaginary-south-africa-court/

25 comments

  1. “Some of the things that I say will be incorrect.” – Elon Musk

  2. Muskrat is a proven liar and ought to be deported. A national security threat if ever there’s been one

  3. 1. Does something that looks like a sieg heil.
    2. Talks about white genocide
    3. Doesn’t actually deny that it’s a sieg heil, just makes jokes.
    4. Is perpetually online.

    Musk is an incel that got lucky.

  4. Country that is alleging imaginary genocide is accused of imaginary genocide.

  6. I know the reddit hivemind hates the guy right now but, the South African government is genuinely atrocious and is currently on the fast track to repeating the same policies that utterly destroyed Zimbabwe.

    The world is a complicated and nuanced place.

  7. He is a supporter of the Boer movement and gives to them, he was partially raised by his grandfather who was a real life Nazi in the 1930 s and 1940s. Who would have guessed he was a Nazi by birth?

  8. So South Africa says that everything in South Africa is fine?

  9. The genocide they’re taking to the ICJ is also imaginary but that’s not stopping them there.

  10. Yes, of course the South African court would say that – why would you trust this source?
    Here are some alternatives:
    This is about a bill passed back in 2018 that explicitly references colonists and taking away the land:
    [https://www.parliament.gov.za/news/national-assembly-debates-motion-land-expropriation](https://www.parliament.gov.za/news/national-assembly-debates-motion-land-expropriation)

    “In 1994 there were 65 000 white farmers in South Africa; today there are only 35 000, with 4 000 said to have been murdered. It is among the white population in South Africa that poverty is growing fastest.**”**
    [**https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2018-004189_EN.html**](https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-8-2018-004189_EN.html)

    There is now an additional law, as of 2024 – [https://time.com/7213703/trump-south-africa-elon-musk-white-land-expropriation-act-explainer/](https://time.com/7213703/trump-south-africa-elon-musk-white-land-expropriation-act-explainer/)

    “The [Expropriation Act of 2024](https://www.parliament.gov.za/storage/app/media/Acts/2024/Act_13_of_2024_Expropriation_Act_2024.pdf) is South Africa’s latest land reform policy aimed to resolve ownership inequality issues created by the pre-1994 apartheid system of white minority rule. Ramaphosa assented to the law on Jan. 23 after five years of public consultation and parliamentary debate.  

    According to the [government](https://www.gov.za/news/media-statements/president-cyril-ramaphosa-assents-expropriation-bill-23-jan-2025), the law “outlines how expropriation can be done and on what basis.” The law allows the government to take in land or “for a public purpose or in the public interest.”

    The law [mandates](https://www.gov.za/sites/default/files/gcis_document/202501/51964-expropriationact13-2024.pdf#page=2) generally “just and equitable” compensation, but one clause states that the government may not provide compensation in certain cases, including when land is not in use and the main purpose is appreciation of market value, or when the land has been abandoned.

    Under [the law](https://www.gov.za/sites/default/files/gcis_document/202501/51964-expropriationact13-2024.pdf#page=10), an expropriating authority—an organ of state or person empowered by it or any other legislation—should have first tried to reach an agreement with the land owner or right holder to acquire the property “on reasonable terms.” However, a property can be used temporarily without the need to reach an agreement if it “is required on an urgent basis for public purpose or in the public interest.”

  11. Fuck Elon but the court is also lying more than a little bit.

  13. Was it not Mandela who supported the use of [commando](https://mg.co.za/article/2003-04-03-dying-days-of-sas-farm-commando-units/)(?) units to help protect white farmers in rural areas from malicious attacks for years until Mbeki decided to end that in 2003?

    Did the UN not place South Africa on a [genocide](http://www.genocide-watch.com/southafrica.html) watch list well before Elon or Trump even entered political scene?

    Didn’t Julius Malema frequently chant the “[kill the white farmer](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GbtrV29N5ZQ)” song at his political rallies, coincidentally leading to a spike in farm murders where it was reported multiple times that nothing was stolen?

    Didn’t [Australia](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-43403408.amp) try to issue visa pathways for South African farmers, years ago, followed by US?

    The only issue here is that Elon is late to the party and he is using this situation in a harmful way, and to his own interests.

    I feel no sympathy for SA considering they’re in bed with Russia and China, but there is an argument that white genocide could exist. People don’t realise that record keeping is abysmal in SA, there are far too many unaccounted deaths and there are crimes that go completely ignored. For every 3 murders, 2 are unresolved, there were over 30,000 murders in 2023.

  14. I mean both Elon and the South African government can both be problematic 

  15. Elon is a pice of shit. Unfortunately that doesn’t mean South Afrika is innocent, they are many bad things happening there, that may not fit into a narrative.

  16. I’m not saying Elon is right or anything, but “the country accused of genocide claims it’s wrong” isn’t quite a relevant headline, is it?

  17. I mean, I’m happy to dunk on Elon at any opportunity, and I think that the claims of genocide are definitely overblown, but trusting the denial of the government that has been accused of allowing it to occur is not a great look.

  18. “Holocaust claim is imaginary”, says Third Reich official.

  19. Obviously a South African court would make such a claim. If it’s true that they don’t do such a thing- then they would claim so rightfully and if such vile acts would be conducted … then the courts wouldn’t be reliable (just imagine if a Russian court claims that russians were systematically opressed in Ukraine before they started to “liberate” the country).

    There are enough reasons to hate on Elon Musk … we shouldn’t ignore the possibility that South Africa might try to do a Zimbabwe.

  21. Jewish genocide claim is imaginary says nazi court.

    Why would you trust the people accused of genocide to determine if it’s happening?

  22. The South African state says the South African state is not guilty of genocide. Case dismissed

    More seriously I don’t think there’s a genocide, but à SA court has no authority on the topic

  23. The amount of bullshit in this article is astonishing.

  24. Elon sucks but I wouldnt trust South Africa’s government.

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