Not sure if this counts with Rule 1. But I thought it was relevant considering one of the ‘free speech’ criticisms Vance made was around Scotland, specifically with the abortion buffer zones (although that is not what is directly referenced in the video)
Free speech, just different from America. Like the right to protest, just different from America
I’m glad he at least attempts to correct him on the cobblers he’s spouting. But, aye, the US (and their pal, Elon, who’s fucking about with the Twitter accounts of those who are high profile and disagree with him) are all for free speech…except where it goes against their current political ideology.
Free speech is not freedom from consequences of said speech.
In a simpler world he could’ve just rolled his eyes at him and called him a fool in mascara it’s what he deserved.
Classic shit: a French did it, so obviously some Brit is gonna run to do the same thing (and spend the next thousand years to pretend he did it first).
“corrects him”
It all seemed very mild.
I would hope that if it were one o us there instead, they’d’ve given it one o these:
American males are so keen on the idea of ’free speech’ only when it affects them. Fuck you, women deserve rights.
He doesn’t correct him.
He lies.
Also note he spoke in the past tense “has had”
We really really don’t have a culture of free speech in the UK, we essentially have limited free speech, we can’t say anything that will threaten the power base of the State. Which might have moved on from essentially being a cover for the wealth and power of the aristocratic class to protecting the power and prestige of the State itself, though the elite class are still there in the background. And that also extend to not upsetting people for the sake of social harmony, for example the concept of hate speech which can be very variably applied, and it’s all dependent on what those in power choose to define on our behalf.
Having dealt with various public bodies (police, local authorities, legal system) as a mere ‘commoner’ I reeally got the sense of having to know my place.
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Not sure if this counts with Rule 1. But I thought it was relevant considering one of the ‘free speech’ criticisms Vance made was around Scotland, specifically with the abortion buffer zones (although that is not what is directly referenced in the video)
Free speech, just different from America. Like the right to protest, just different from America
I’m glad he at least attempts to correct him on the cobblers he’s spouting. But, aye, the US (and their pal, Elon, who’s fucking about with the Twitter accounts of those who are high profile and disagree with him) are all for free speech…except where it goes against their current political ideology.
Free speech is not freedom from consequences of said speech.
In a simpler world he could’ve just rolled his eyes at him and called him a fool in mascara it’s what he deserved.
Classic shit: a French did it, so obviously some Brit is gonna run to do the same thing (and spend the next thousand years to pretend he did it first).
“corrects him”
It all seemed very mild.
I would hope that if it were one o us there instead, they’d’ve given it one o these:
https://youtu.be/AENyqvPuCN0?si=7UJOO2ekNa35I-W-
Jump to 15 seconds in.
American males are so keen on the idea of ’free speech’ only when it affects them. Fuck you, women deserve rights.
He doesn’t correct him.
He lies.
Also note he spoke in the past tense “has had”
We really really don’t have a culture of free speech in the UK, we essentially have limited free speech, we can’t say anything that will threaten the power base of the State. Which might have moved on from essentially being a cover for the wealth and power of the aristocratic class to protecting the power and prestige of the State itself, though the elite class are still there in the background. And that also extend to not upsetting people for the sake of social harmony, for example the concept of hate speech which can be very variably applied, and it’s all dependent on what those in power choose to define on our behalf.
Having dealt with various public bodies (police, local authorities, legal system) as a mere ‘commoner’ I reeally got the sense of having to know my place.
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