Being from Indiana, can confirm: Nobody leaves and nobody comes.
I would love to see this paired with studies or interviews from the max and min counties, to learn why exactly the change was so significant: Covid? Job influx? etc
I’m from a darker green area in North Central WA and it’s fucking exploding over there. People from Cali come over and buy big houses, for what they view as cheap.
What’s happening in Idaho?
Sumter County, Florida growth is largely due to The Villages.
CA losing people pisses me off so much because the problem is so apparent; don’t have selfish housing policies and build homes that young people can afford so that they can also start a family. But no matter how vivid, we keep doing this to ourselves.
And to add insult to injury we’re losing to fucking Texas. I hate life and everything it has to fucking offer.
I have lived in north San Antonio / comal county my whole life and have seen the growth happen for the past 20 years. I understand that housing here is megacheap and affordable, but this whole area is so awful and lifeless, it blows my mind why anyone would willingly move here. There is no natural beauty. Just suburban sprawl next to no real bodies of water, mountains, or anything of note. Terrible, humid weather. Theres a brief winter followed by 80–100 degrees days for most of the year. Traffic is consistently horrendous with zero alternative transportation options. The education level here is abysmal, and the bulk of the food cuisine is unhealthy, resulting in an average obese population.
After planning for years, we are finally moving out this month to the pacific northwest and my partner and I are so excited to be leaving this shithole.
What is with the purple line on west Virginia/Kentucky?
The rings on the Texas cities is interesting. Are those the beltways?
I’m surprised anywhere in Iowa has had any growth. Check back next year after we block mRNA vaccines later this year.
Can someone explain the difference between 1st and 2nd graphics? Is it just % vs count? They have the same titles
I’m surprised Davidson county TN is losing population. Nashville seems to be booming right now. Lots of new high rise luxury apartments , gentrification, tall and skinny new construction homes.
Cool map! I’m surprised rural areas in the mid Atlantic east didn’t see more growth.
Lets see how long that growth in Florida lasts.
The big circle around Boston is probably responsible for all that green surrounding it in New England. Interesting stuff
Reminder that these mid-decade estimates are specifically bad guessing Rust Belt cities accurately. The methods they use result in undercounts, which makes it look like they’re losing much more population than they actually are.
When a building is demolished, they automatically subtract 2 residents, regardless of how long it was vacant. In many cases, a building was empty in 2020, then they recount the loss in 2023 when the building is demo’ed. They also undercount multi-family renovations, like the warehouse to loft conversions common in rust belt cities. So lots of new residents go uncounted.Â
Detroit sued the Census Bureau and got them to recount using a less stupid method. Turns out they actually grew. That’s why Detroit shows a population increase while peer cities like St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland show losses.Â
Gosh, poor little St. Louis. It’s been so bad for years and worsening, which of course makes us look even worse for per capita crime statistics.
I would enjoy seeing 300K California democrats all move to Wyoming. D’s could pick up 2 senators and 2 congress critters.
It’s well known New York shifted 10 points right in the 2024 election, but movement in that green blob in the middle was much less. Overlaps with a swingy house district that shifted just two points right and flipped blue.
Legit surprised Miami is shrinking
Fun fact is those southwest Kansas counties lost so many people that Trump had a net LOSS of votes there even though many shifted right.
We need a zoomed out maps for tristate. NYC always covers up NJ/NYupstate/CT areas
Why would anyone *willingly* move to Texas? I don’t get it. What exactly is going on?
No one’s gonna mention the spelling on excluding? Is this reddit or not?
I know its real, but San Francisco County sounds made up.
Whats with the -34% on the range? Was there a county that actually lost 34%?
![[OC] Population Change from 2020 to 2023 by US County](https://www.europesays.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/6j94nn22qwme1-1080x1024.jpg)
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Data: [https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2020s-counties-total.html](https://www.census.gov/data/tables/time-series/demo/popest/2020s-counties-total.html)
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Being from Indiana, can confirm: Nobody leaves and nobody comes.
I would love to see this paired with studies or interviews from the max and min counties, to learn why exactly the change was so significant: Covid? Job influx? etc
I’m from a darker green area in North Central WA and it’s fucking exploding over there. People from Cali come over and buy big houses, for what they view as cheap.
What’s happening in Idaho?
Sumter County, Florida growth is largely due to The Villages.
CA losing people pisses me off so much because the problem is so apparent; don’t have selfish housing policies and build homes that young people can afford so that they can also start a family. But no matter how vivid, we keep doing this to ourselves.
And to add insult to injury we’re losing to fucking Texas. I hate life and everything it has to fucking offer.
I have lived in north San Antonio / comal county my whole life and have seen the growth happen for the past 20 years. I understand that housing here is megacheap and affordable, but this whole area is so awful and lifeless, it blows my mind why anyone would willingly move here. There is no natural beauty. Just suburban sprawl next to no real bodies of water, mountains, or anything of note. Terrible, humid weather. Theres a brief winter followed by 80–100 degrees days for most of the year. Traffic is consistently horrendous with zero alternative transportation options. The education level here is abysmal, and the bulk of the food cuisine is unhealthy, resulting in an average obese population.
After planning for years, we are finally moving out this month to the pacific northwest and my partner and I are so excited to be leaving this shithole.
What is with the purple line on west Virginia/Kentucky?
The rings on the Texas cities is interesting. Are those the beltways?
I’m surprised anywhere in Iowa has had any growth. Check back next year after we block mRNA vaccines later this year.
Can someone explain the difference between 1st and 2nd graphics? Is it just % vs count? They have the same titles
I’m surprised Davidson county TN is losing population. Nashville seems to be booming right now. Lots of new high rise luxury apartments , gentrification, tall and skinny new construction homes.
Cool map! I’m surprised rural areas in the mid Atlantic east didn’t see more growth.
Lets see how long that growth in Florida lasts.
The big circle around Boston is probably responsible for all that green surrounding it in New England. Interesting stuff
Reminder that these mid-decade estimates are specifically bad guessing Rust Belt cities accurately. The methods they use result in undercounts, which makes it look like they’re losing much more population than they actually are.
When a building is demolished, they automatically subtract 2 residents, regardless of how long it was vacant. In many cases, a building was empty in 2020, then they recount the loss in 2023 when the building is demo’ed. They also undercount multi-family renovations, like the warehouse to loft conversions common in rust belt cities. So lots of new residents go uncounted.Â
Detroit sued the Census Bureau and got them to recount using a less stupid method. Turns out they actually grew. That’s why Detroit shows a population increase while peer cities like St. Louis, Chicago, Cleveland show losses.Â
Gosh, poor little St. Louis. It’s been so bad for years and worsening, which of course makes us look even worse for per capita crime statistics.
I would enjoy seeing 300K California democrats all move to Wyoming. D’s could pick up 2 senators and 2 congress critters.
It’s well known New York shifted 10 points right in the 2024 election, but movement in that green blob in the middle was much less. Overlaps with a swingy house district that shifted just two points right and flipped blue.
Legit surprised Miami is shrinking
Fun fact is those southwest Kansas counties lost so many people that Trump had a net LOSS of votes there even though many shifted right.
We need a zoomed out maps for tristate. NYC always covers up NJ/NYupstate/CT areas
Why would anyone *willingly* move to Texas? I don’t get it. What exactly is going on?
No one’s gonna mention the spelling on excluding? Is this reddit or not?
I know its real, but San Francisco County sounds made up.
Whats with the -34% on the range? Was there a county that actually lost 34%?
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