The World Press Photo of the year in 1964. Turkish woman mourning her husband killed by Greek forces , Gazbaran , Cyprus.

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  1. It’s ashame how much conflict Turkey’s illegal invasion And attempted installation of a puppet state caused between the Greeks and Turks of the island. It caused a lot of hatred between Turkish-Cypriots and Greek-Cypriots and the affects are still felt to this day.

  6. This is sad, but you are clearly using it only for propaganda purposes (we had an argument not long sgo in another Cyprus post). This wouldn’t have happened had Turkey not invaded Cyprus as well (the first one was legal, the second one was not).

  9. “Greek-Cypriot woman looking for her husband after the Turkish invasion of Cyprus (1974)” – **88% upvoted**

    “The World Press Photo of the year in 1964. Turkish woman mourning her husband killed by Greek forces , Gazbaran , Cyprus” – **51% upvoted**

    And the best part is that, this picture was taken in 1964 before Turkey was the bad guy, absolutely comedic.

  14. Thank you dear europeans for showing us that you are definitely no different from Nazis. I say this with sincerely. Thank you for showing us that you don’t think us as humans, actually you don’t think anyone as human who has not “White Western Christian” roots. Thank you. I am grateful to you.

    Thank you for not showing any remorse for our deads who died by your own hands. Thank you for trying to restrict us when we try to save our kin while they die by your hands. Thank you for your accusations towards us when we were saving our kin. Thank you.

    Thank you for even stealing our deads and claiming as your own and after that make propaganda with it. Thank you. We will always remember these actions, these words.

    I’ll swear to any divine being if there are, any slightest spiritual, holy or divine thing (if there are any) we all remember this. Thank you. Please humiliate us more. Accuse us more. Please. Kill us, then mock us then accuse us. Then play the victim side. I’ll swear we’ll remember. I’ll teach everyone I know, my family, my children, my kin, my friends, all the people I know how much racists are you. Thank you.

  15. I don’t understand the comments, what the hell has happened to your humanity? No matter how and why happened when there is a war there are two sides suffering. Most of the times decisions are made quite above those who actually suffer but the result is never different. Why to undermine one side’s pain in such situation? Is it only Greeks who are allowed to be the victims of such disaster?

    For the original photo: [https://www.worldpressphoto.org/collection/photo/1964/36196/1/1964-Don-McCullin-WY](https://www.worldpressphoto.org/collection/photo/1964/36196/1/1964-Don-McCullin-WY)

  18. I’ve actually wrote a humble bachelor’s thesis (Dutch so probably not really interesting to most of you) about the Coup in 1974 and the years before that. While i read many comments saying this post is obvious propaganda, which may hold some truth, i concluded very thoroughly that both sides ( the Greek state of Greece, led by a military junta and Turkey after the invasion) commited atrocities, which sadly seems the case most of the time in ethnic (Balkan) conflicts.

    I did however conclude that Turkey’s invasion of Cyprus was wholly illegitimate, even though it might seem understandable (geo-political reasons and ‘protecting’ fellow Turks). It might be likened to the invasion of Crimea by Putin for roughly similair reasons.

    Bishop Makarios was NOT purposely ‘cleansing’ Turks. They were originally before the divide of the island not that many Turkish Cypriots anyway, they were by far in the minority. That changed after the invasion and Turkey practically started colonizing the north.

    All in all it’s just sad seeing an island with as much history and unique culture as Cyprus being torn apart as it is now. I fervently hope it can be shared between al the Cypriots, being them Greek-Cypriots or Turkish-Cypriots, one day.

  21. These comments shows the hypocrisy of the west really well. You people look at a photo of a Turkish woman mourning her husband who was killed by Greek soldiers and call it propaganda , when it’s the reverse , you people go “bArBaRIan tuRKs” “GenOcIDErs”.

  22. Apperantly Turks deserved this because they invaded 10 years after this photo is taken. We are that evil. We deserve what happens to us even before the action comes after what has done against us.

    I eventually want to see that r/Europe admit that they hate Turks because they are Muslims in general and they did their crimes against Christians.

    It turns out Christians are allowed to be assholes against Muslims but not the reverse.

  28. Babe its 5 am time for your weekly cyprus post

    Right now Cyprus is an Eastern Mediterrenean Island divided between Republic of Cyprus, UK, UN Buffer Zone and Northern Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus only recognized by Turkey and viewed as occupied territory by the rest of the world. This, everyone knows.
    Now a quick history before the 1974 war section, in 1571 Ottomans conquered the island and at that point 100% greek island started to have a significant turkish minority. The Russo-Turkish War ended the Ottoman control of Cyprus in 1878. Cyprus then came under the control of the British Empire with its conditions set out in the Cyprus Convention. However, sovereignty of the island continued to be maintained by the Ottoman Empire until Great Britain annexed the island unilaterally in 1914, after it declared war against the Ottomans during the First World War. Following World War I, under the provisions of the Lausanne Treaty, Turkey relinquished all claims and rights on Cyprus.

    Under British rule the island began to enjoy a period of increased free speech, something which allowed further development of the Greek Cypriots’ ideas of enosis (unification with Greece). Till this time Greek and Turkish cypriots were living in harmony despite a few minor uprisings before this period. Cyprus didn’t see any major problem from the times Ottoman Empire Conquered it to the WWII. After WWII Greek Cypriots’ ideas of enosis turned into frequent rebellions against UK but the Turkish cypriots did not want a union with Greece so they were relatively calm at the time.

    Between 1955 and 1959 Greek Cypriots formed the EOKA organisation, led by George Grivas, to achieve enosis . After UK decleared a state of emergancy in the Island after constant EOKA attacks, Turks formed their own organization called TMT against EOKA. Their goal was the taksim (partition of the island). However the EOKA and TMT campaign did not result in union with Greece or partition of the island but rather in an independent republic, the Republic of Cyprus, in 1960.

    The 1960 constitution put in place a form of power-sharing, or consociational government, in which concessions were made to the Turkish Cypriots minority, including as a requirement that the vice-president of Cyprus and at least 30% of members of parliament be Turkish Cypriots. Archbishop Makarios III would be the President and Dr. Fazıl Küçük would become Vice President. One of the articles in the constitution was the creation of separate local municipalities so that Greek and Turkish Cypriots could manage their own municipalities in large towns. This new nation wasn’t fully independet as the three guerantors, UK, Turkey and Greece still had a huge influance over the nation and UK still had their military bases in the island.

    The Treaty of the Independence of the Cyprus, Article I, banned the union with any state, which meant there was no legal and possible way for the enosis to be a reality. In Article IV each of the three guaranteeing powers were given the right to take action with the sole aim of re-establishing the state of affairs created by the present treaty. In 1963 president Makarios made a few proposals for constitutional changes and practically removed many of the rights of the Turkish minority and tried to make it so that Greeks were the only ones in power. When Turks didn’t agree on this the ethnic infighting really began after EOKA started to clean the island of “undesireables” because they did not agree to give all their rights away. Turks did not respond to this kindly and instead fought back just as hard.

    Violance peaked in December, that is known as “Bloody Christmass” which there was hundreds of casulties on both sides. This one was absolutely brutal and you seriously don’t wanna look up of it’s images in the online. Hundreds of Turkish Cypriots were taking hostage and thousands of Turkish Cypriots were driven out of their villages. In 1964 UN tried to interfene to restore peace in Cyprus because the island was in the brink of the civil war which could lead to war between two NATO members, Turkey and Greece. Despite the UN force ethnic infighting did not stop and they had to phisically seperate the capital.

    Till this point USA doesn’t seem to interve but it they were trying to pull the strings with CIA, just not publicly. The process that brought about the first US involvement in the crisis started in November 1963, when Makarios sought to change the constitution in order to centralize the government. This move soon led a civil war on the island and after the war, the guarantor powers got involved. Believing Makarios’ “independent” actions on the island were a threat to “peace” in the Mediterranean. The primary objective of the US was to avoid a war between Turkey and Greece and to secure the Natofication of the island.

    Both Turkey and Greece accepted the elimination of Makarios but disagreed on how to achieve it: “Enosis or Enosis with compensation to Turkey”. Turkey wanted the second option while Greece insisted on the first. Makarios, on the other hand, achieved the internationalization of the crisis by demanding help from Soviets. Under Cold War conditions, the Johnson administration, believing that the second option was the best solution for the interests of all the parties, tried very hard to find the silver lining between the parties however, they failed to convince the Papandreou government in Greece.

    Situation getting slowly out of hand, USA and UK secretly agreed to encouarge Turkey to invade and partition the island as a back backup plan. This plan did not see any use though as an invasion did not happened for now. In 1967 Greek goverment was overthrown by a far-right military junta in a coup d’état. Makarios was indeed all for enosis but not with a far-right military junta, but George Grivas did not care if athens was in under the control of a military junta and still fought for enosis with EOKA. This led to major disagreement between the two and Makarios over a few years survived 5 assasination attempts by EOKA and Greek Cypriots as they wanted to overthrow his government for their union with Greece.
    In 1974 Cyprus intelligance discovered a plan to overthrow the goverment but not from EOKA, instead from Athens as another military junta took over the Greece and they were successful. While Makarios was flying to London for his life, Nikos Sampson, a former EOKA Execution Squad member. US, having CIA operate excessively in the island and knowing there would be a Coup, did not intervene to save the country or warn anyone as they were now satisfied because Makarios was out of the picture. They did not want Makarios anywhere near Cyprus because a Soviet infulance would spell doom for Turkey and NATO.

    Turkey, rightfully and understandably being furious about the coup in Cyprus was furious and cited the Article IV which gave right to Turkey to invade Cyprus to re-establish the state of affairs in the island. 5 days later Turkish troops landed in Cyprus and captured 3% of the island with Atilla I operation. This only lasted 2 days and UN Security Council called for a ceasefire. Both military dictatorships fell apart quicly due to the invasion in Greece and Cyprus. Three guarantor powers tried to solve the situation in Geneva but it resulted in a deadlock.

    At this point, unless you are a 13 year old greek ultra-nationalist reading this it is obvious that Turkey had any right to intervene and saved their kin from an EOKA dictatorship and International Community thought the same. Everyone was sympathetic towards Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. During the next five days, Turkey agreed to halt its advance on the condition that it would remain on the island until a political settlement was reached. Meanwhile, Turkish forces continued to advance as Greek forces occupied more Turkish-Cypriot enclaves. A new cease-fire line was agreed. On 30 July, the powers declared that the withdrawal of Turkish forces should be linked to a “just and lasting settlement acceptable to all parties concerned”, with mentions of “two autonomous administrations – that of Greek-Cypriot community and that of the Turkish-Cypriot community”.

    Another round of talks was held on 8 August, this time including Cypriot representatives. Turkish Cypriots, supported by Turkey, demanded geographical separation from the Greek Cypriots; it was rejected by Makarios, who was committed to a unitary state. Deadlock ensued. On 14 August, Turkey demanded that Greece accept a Cypriot federal state, which would have resulted in the Turkish Cypriots – making up 18% of the population and 10% of land ownership – receiving 34% of the island.

    The talks ended when Turkey refused Clerides’ request for 36 to 48 hours to consult with the Cypriot and Greek governments. Within hours, Turkey launched a second offensive with Atilla II and captured 36%-37% of the island that made the 70% of all GDP in the Republic of Cyprus. Again at this point, unless you are an 13 year old turkish ultra-nationalist reading this it is obvious that there are more aspects to the Turkish intervention just than protecting their kin. By the time of the last ceasefire on 16 August 1974. The area between the combatants became a United Nations-administered buffer zone, or “green line”.

  29. Yesterday i saw the same post but for Greek women. I wonder why the times when someone shares Greek sufferings is not propaganda but Turkish sufferings are propaganda? Ppl can’t be a propaganda reason. This is just history. Stop fing acting racist.

  31. Racism against us Turks is nowhere near anything compared to other ethnicities in the western world. So much propaganda has been done and the thing that hurts me is we don’t do anything about it, we just let them spread misinformation about us in the entire world. Feels bad man, we are not evil.

  32. Why is everyone bitching about r/europe being fascist and hating on turks just because of some comments which have been massively downvoted anyway?

  33. The reasons Turks are not well liked is because of how they behave when immigrating in other countries.

    Not the state of Turkey is at fault for that, it’s the people of Turkey. They actively don’t integrate themselves and forcefully try to introduce the culture they are running away from.

  36. In wars, such situations can happen. I am a Turk and Armenians lived where we lived in the 1900s, but the Turks attacked their village and killed them all. But the Armenians did the same to us, they were gangs attacking us, kidnapping and raping women, etc. Therefore, it is wrong to say that Turks are bad, Armenians or Greeks are good, people are not the same, everything can happen all the time.

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