How to move 1,000 people

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  1. While this graph does use maximum capacity for buses and trains while using (above) average capacity for cars, you have to remember that a car spends 90% of its time parked while buses and trains are always moving.

  2. This whole sub reeks of people who never learned to drive trying to justify why they don’t have a very basic life skill.

  3. Meanwhile all the motorists are pissed off at all the people using more efficient modes of transport.

  4. They way cars have been a central part of organising cities and society is objectively nonsensical. Thats not to say that there aren’t reasons for people to drive. you might have young kids, be elderly, have mobility issue, be pregnant etc.

    But lets look at the facts. From a personal finance perspective, they are for most people the second most expensive purchase made in a life time and they immediately decrease in value the first time you sit in the car by at least 25% and and continue to over time. Most people put themselves in debt to buy the car and then make a massive loss selling it on. Compare this to a house for example which tends to be a sound investment that increases in value. Should cars be so central to economic planning?

    From a city planning perspective – imagine how much space there would be in cities if all the cars dissapeared tomorrow. How much nicer would all the streets be?

    We dont even need to mention the obvious effects of the pollution on our health and our environment. Pathologists can tell in postmortems whether people lived in cities due to the amounth of black tar buildt up in peoples lungs. In the last decade there have been a number of children who have died because of the air pollution in London and this number is rising.

    They are a terrible use of economic, material and spacial resource.. (sorry rant over)

  5. A proposition for city people by city people.

    I’ll carry on in my diesel motor thanks. Only let me down once in ten years. Not one train route in Ireland can boast that.

  6. Transport in Ireland (and particularly Dublin) needs a long term vision and to be delivered by a state body that is not subject to the whims of politics. They should start from scratch and think about every form of existing transport and figure out a cohesive strategy where they’re integrated and focused towards central hubs prioritising speed and reliability. Every form of public transport is a joke compared to any other major city (except maybe the luas).

    Bus connect and Metro are good examples of projects that just get buried in delays and bureaucracy. Good ideas, but much to slow on concept design and delivery.

    There also needs to be much more focus on linking planning for housing and transport. Take Rathcoole as an example, a big population with one bus route that runs once per hour. Any other transport option inevitably involves a car, even if only for part of the journey.

  7. I don’t drive and would love to continue not driving but the modern worlds obsession with catering to cars instead of moving populations efficiently means I am, like many others, going to wind up driving someday.

  8. Why do 1,000 people need to move at all? The reality is most people don’t need to physically be in work – they can work from home.

  9. I will add at least with a car you don’t have to fight people for a seat,

    Also you don’t need to wait for your car to arrives on time or if it even arrives at all that would have been great, so many times I was told “oh that train has been cancelled because issues next one in an hour” 🤬

    Homeless and drunk people popping cans right beside you, a guy pissed himself beside me in his sleep once 😐, the smell was disgusting.

    you don’t have to listen to a speaker blaring from a bunch of kids who think there taste in music is so good that everyone need to listen their crap.

    you are surrounded by people who would just sneeze and cough down your back without covering there face because they where dragged up.

    I was getting off the train once and a guy with a high vis jacket was masturbating 2 seats down under the Center-table of the commuter train from Dublin.

    All of this for an inflated ticket price that costs more than a cheap car by the end of the year.

    I use to take the train to Dublin for nearly 5 years, I refuse to use that absolutely Terrible and disgusting service ever again, I bought a car as soon as I could. F**k Irish Rail.

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