Donald Trump considers pulling troops out of Germany

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/07/donald-trump-considers-pulling-troops-out-of-germany/

Posted by Chinchiller92

15 comments

  2. Why would we need US troops in Germany anymore, since we can’t trust the US anyways

  3. Trump wants to change the meaning of the transatlantic alliance from a defeat of fascism and the re establishment of an allied liberal democratic German Nation to it being a Putin Fan Club of autocrats on European soil, armed with an American Army group.
    Hungary has a border with western Ukraine near Lwiw. Announcing this move now is basically just short of threatening Ukraine militarily to “make Peace” aka capitulate to Putins demands.
    If this was about backing Ukraine in a peace deal, he wouldn’t have chosen Hungary and Orban.

  4. Not going to happen. Ramstein is too important for US global military logistics and also has a major hospital.

    I guess it could happen given all the other things going on, but it doesn’t make sense.

  5. Ok what if we as Europe bite back? What if we get rid of all of the American military bases on the continent?

  6. Well ok. Let them leave. Russia has to respite before anything can happen. The Poles are stronger than ever (barring a certain Commonwealth), and in that time Germany now has the money, the will and the know-how. The French even got us all covered with the only thing the Americans can provide. If they wanna stay, cool, they can stay until Germany can boot them out themselves.

  8. honestly this makes no sense

    building the bases for over 35k units is extremely costly and it’ll take likely years, and if it did happen and if it was to invade Ukraine it still makes no sense on the account that the border between Hungary and Ukraine is small and very hilly, ie the very terrain you’d stall enemies on. Besides the small fact that the entire thing is going to escalate in a ridiculous manner, and possibly causing a civil war in the states

  10. We’ll see if they’ll actually do it

    All of the orders has been made less severe because I don’t think their pride are gonna allow them to be cancelled once enacted

  11. The US needs those bases more than Germany does. Since 1989, Germany is no longer on the first line of defense from an expansionist Russia. Russia would have to get through Poland before reaching German territory.

    Meanwhile, the US heavily depends on their military infrastructure in Germany for their power projection in the Middle East. The loss of these bases would severely weaken American influence in the Middle East and North Africa region.

  12. Ramstein is the operational and logistics hub for US force projection in the Middle East and Africa. Abandoning it wouldn’t just be European isolation it would massively interrupt their ability to support Israel or their ability to respond to situations in Africa. It is so ludicrously bone headed that even Trumpish generals will balk at it – i would hope

  13. I think what frustrates me most about how this administration is approaching its pullback from NATO is that there’s ways in which a less involved USA makes sense, and could even be a good thing, but that’s completely overshadowed by the hostility and general backassery by which they’re doing it, and more eerily by the questionable motives.

    There’s a case to be made for the US basically saying “Hey NATO, we’ve been carrying the military load here for a long time, but it’s now our prerogative to take a reduce role in worldwide military operations. Let’s figure out a ten-year plan for us to reduce presence and for other NATO countries to fill the gaps we leave.”

    The entire reason for the US military spend making up the bulk of NATO is *that’s how they wanted it*. Along with that spend came control, power and influence, both soft and direct. You could make the argument that other countries drag their heels on raising their budgets and they may need a bit of a kick in the ass, but that should come as a firm, actionable plan complete with diplomacy, not this emotional chaos that’s happening right now.

    And obviously the elephant in the room is the degree to which this is all being influenced by Russia. Trump breaking America away from its western allies and aligning with Russia just underscores the danger here.

    I’m also well aware while writing all this that nothing has actually happened yet. Trump is a bunch of hot air and this could all result in nothing happening, but his words alone have already damaged America’s alliances, reputation and power, maybe irreparably, and it hasn’t even been two months.

    Ironically if Trump wants the other NATO members to increase their military spend he’s found about the fastest way to get them moving. It’s just too bad it will end up being to America’s detriment in stead of the mutually beneficial way it could have been.

  15. I consider pulling out all the feces of Donald Trumps head.

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