After 80 years of transatlantic ties, Europe forges a new alliance.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/09/after-80-years-of-transatlantic-ties-europe-forges-a-new-alliance

30 comments
  1. No one expected one man to upend the global world order in 6 weeks.

    Strange thinking he has ‘Friends are enemies’, ‘Enemies are friends’, ‘Peace is aggression’, ‘Strength through surrender’.

  2. The phrase “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer” comes to mind 🤔

  3. US no longer a friend. Instead proved to be able to backstab friends.

  4. Citizens of the US still stand with the old allegiances. Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck Putin.

  5. I don’t get why America is even negotiating with Russia and Ukraine.

    America has withdrawn all aid so why are they relevant?

  6. This is good for Europe. Now that the relationship with the USA is broken there’s is nothing to stop them getting the EU ast the reserve currency and for it to surpass the US defence industry – why buy weapons from an “ally” that refuses to let you use them?

  7. It’s wild how they’re throwing away so much investment in forging alliances, relationships that their rivals could only wish for. Billions if not trillions over decades and decades that have helped ensure American global dominance pissed up the wall in weeks for some short term savings. It’s like quitting your 30 year career because you could save the money on fuel by not commuting.

  8. TRANS Atlantic?!?!? Not on my watch – republicans

  9. > The best way I can describe it is sort of like hitting a mule with a two by four across the nose. You get their attention.

    … or you kill the mule.

  10. I read “lies” and somehow the title was fitting too

  11. Wish Europe had coalesced their efforts sooner, maybe in 2016. Glad they finally realized that under Trump, America will abandon her role in fighting for democracy.

  12. It’s honestly fair enough. Since china surpassed US as the leading superpower, USA has descended into chaotic disorganisation that makes banana republic’s look more organised and less dangerous.

    Trumps bullying and posturing shows a weak understanding of human nature and therefore he leads to represent a few narrow interests only and as a diverse and wide world everyone else is just quietly taking a step back.

    America withdrawing from wars and claiming peace is a godsend if we could actually trust them. Everyone is better off without trigger happy destruction joining in the style of the ‘team America’ movie.

    A show of strength forcing invaders to back off and stay in their borders, everywhere, is the path to peace

  13. I think the West can confidently write off the US as a viable partner now. It will sadly be bygone times when the US (RUSsia now) could be trusted. Many Americans have short memories.

    Chump will decide that the military is costing too much and will cheapen it out, then it will be compromised by corrupt politicians who keep the money instead of spending it as they should on equipment, just like the Russians really.

    Only the American people can change what’s happening but do they have the will to do so? I genuinely hope so.

  14. Are we sure that Trump didn’t misunderstand transatlantic ties as transgender ties?

  15. This is what we need. Europe need to pull together. I think we all know now how good the bloc can be. As long as it isn’t too restrictive on each county’s sovereignty it’s great.

  16. A United Europe

    Bring Uk back into trade market agreements. Let’s be real the vote was ridiculous and the general public felt lied to. Brexit was Putins wet dream, makes us more divided

    Increase defence spending, withdrawing completely the purchase of F-35 as Americas technology is too much of a high security concern and its recent treason. Develop technology supply chain and infrastructure.

  17. Ukraine still needs Himars, Patriot rockets and Starlink.

    Hopefully, Europe is allowed to buy those from the US and send those to Ukraine.

  18. what shocks me it only took 6 weeks to dissolve. without any internal protests or holding the current USA leadership accountable. no action nothing. it almost looks like nobody cared anyway

  19. It’s what they wanted, isn’t it?
    Europe, Canada, Oceania and some of Asia is gonna form an alliance and take their trade to China while the American economy is gonna tank. And their military becoming less and less relevant as they withdraw their presence from everywhere.

    USA is probably gonna do trade with Russia and that’s it.

  20. The U.S. will probably ban transatlantic flights soon because it includes the word trans.

  21. There are three possible states the US could have wrt Russia and Ukraine:

    – The US supports Ukraine (as it was).
    – The US remains agnostic (when it removed access to weapons, intel and satellites).
    – The US actively supports Russia.

    The problem for us in Europe at the moment, is to discern between the latter two states. And what with the US actively disengaging with, for example, Russian sabotage of our infrastructure (through their ships), this is very problematic. We can probably work with the US disengaging. We do not want to meet the US on the battlefield as – effectively – opponents.

  22. Funny to see France at the table, considering their recent issues in Africa. Looking for a new country to pillage resources from.

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