What happened between 1920 and 1948 to remove them from Greece? Did Greece and Albania have a population exchange in not aware of or is this WW2?
What are the holes inside of Albania?
Greeks have done genocide to albanians?
Erm actually I know an Albanian in the US so this map is bad!!!
If you set your VPN location to Albania, you don’t get YouTube ads. Shout out to the Albanians.
Guys, the Greeks didn’t ethnic cleanse the Albanians. The Albanians stopped identifying themselves as Albanians and assimilated into just being Greeks.
E: it’s kind of like how there are a lot of people in the USA who, when asked to identify their ethnicity, just say American. Those people just don’t have an ethnicity they identify with other than American.
It’s fairly obvious from the images that this wasn’t really a case of actual change but rather a change in methodology.
I don’t mean to be rude, but this post really unfaithfully represents the data.
Without the relevant context, one sees the disappearance of Albanians from Attiki, the Peolpposnese and lower Euboea, and along with OP’s comments, leaves thinking that there was practically a genocide.
OP presents the ethnic cleansing of Cham Albanians as having been a mass scale genocide which led to this but his own sources claim that the total death toll was less than 3,000 people. This is absolutely awful, I agree, but to point to this and say it’s the entire cause of the disappearances in the map is frankly just misleading.
At the same time, OP fails to mention the change in methodology, as “Arvanites” Albanians in Greece started being counted as ethnically Greek, not Albanian.
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Now they’re everywhere but Albania 😔
Sources:
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Historical_maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_Balkans](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Historical_maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_Balkans)
[https://www.balkanethnicmaps.hu/](https://www.balkanethnicmaps.hu/)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ethnographic_maps_of_the_Balkans](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Ethnographic_maps_of_the_Balkans)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Albania](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Albania)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_Albania](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_Albania)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Greece](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Greece)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minorities_in_Greece](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minorities_in_Greece)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_Greece](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_Greece)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_North_Macedonia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_North_Macedonia)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_North_Macedonia](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_North_Macedonia)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Montenegro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Montenegro)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Montenegro](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Montenegro)
[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_Montenegro](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Maps_of_ethnic_groups_in_Montenegro)
I’m sure there’ll be absolutely no arguing on this post at all.
More or less the same place through these centuries.
All I know about Albania is that it borders on the Adriatic: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F_tT-q8EF0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F_tT-q8EF0)
What happened between 1920 and 1948 to remove them from Greece? Did Greece and Albania have a population exchange in not aware of or is this WW2?
What are the holes inside of Albania?
Greeks have done genocide to albanians?
Erm actually I know an Albanian in the US so this map is bad!!!
If you set your VPN location to Albania, you don’t get YouTube ads. Shout out to the Albanians.
Guys, the Greeks didn’t ethnic cleanse the Albanians. The Albanians stopped identifying themselves as Albanians and assimilated into just being Greeks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arvanites
E: it’s kind of like how there are a lot of people in the USA who, when asked to identify their ethnicity, just say American. Those people just don’t have an ethnicity they identify with other than American.
It’s fairly obvious from the images that this wasn’t really a case of actual change but rather a change in methodology.
I don’t mean to be rude, but this post really unfaithfully represents the data.
Without the relevant context, one sees the disappearance of Albanians from Attiki, the Peolpposnese and lower Euboea, and along with OP’s comments, leaves thinking that there was practically a genocide.
OP presents the ethnic cleansing of Cham Albanians as having been a mass scale genocide which led to this but his own sources claim that the total death toll was less than 3,000 people. This is absolutely awful, I agree, but to point to this and say it’s the entire cause of the disappearances in the map is frankly just misleading.
At the same time, OP fails to mention the change in methodology, as “Arvanites” Albanians in Greece started being counted as ethnically Greek, not Albanian.
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