Tim Walz says he and Harris were too ‘safe’ during 2024 presidential campaign

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1. Absolutely insane that two people running for president would fall for the exact same strategy that lead Hillary to failure. This is not the time to pull punches and think “normal” will get you anywhere.

2. I really don’t think that was the problem. The problem is the average American voter only cares about what happens in the weeks prior to voting. The memory of the average voter is pretty bad.

3. You mean trotting out Liz Cheney wasn’t a winning message?

4. They def messed up in many ways
   1. Biden should have said he was only running one term from the beginning and they should have put effort into finding a better candidate from the beginning. Him waiting until Kamala was the only legal option for campaign funds without giving democrats a choice was a bad move
   2. The biggest issue voters were occupied with overall was the economy and the cost of living. The average person doesn’t understand the economy and what Biden was doing to decrease inflation and how long this process can take. People want instant results to help them. Kamala focused way too much on social politics and “staying the course” which is not something people wanted to hear. Saying she wouldn’t change a thing Biden did was shooting herself. She should have focused more on what she disagreed with Biden on and how she would have done it differently and giving set plans on how she would go about doing things differently. Her entire campaign was being a continuation of Biden.

5. Maybe run somebody who’s actually popular next time. She came in last in the Democratic primaries. I liked Tim Walz tho. He left a good impression in such a short time.

6. The vote was incredibly weird, no one’s talking about it, investigators were fired… look at [Arizona](https://i.imgur.com/h5lVKLW.png). Racism and misogyny and/or Gaza affected all the counties almost equally by the number of Democratic votes?

   We kept the election deniers out again, passed abortion 2:1, and now 150k new Republicans who don’t vote on anything else have joined a ludicrous, demographically inexplicable, large number of Democrats to vote for an insurrectionist?

   We’re all half stupid and the enemies of fascism will continue to suffer. Read your damn mail Tim, read Kamala’s mail too.

7. They were dismissive of the economic woes individuals were facing over inflation and a lack of income growth. The economy was getting stronger and growing faster, but the effects hadn’t yet made it to the lower class.

   They did a terrible job on messaging this and instead became dismissive.

   By the time Trump took office, the effects were starting to make their way to the public. But it was too late.

   The public made a worse choice because of temporary perceptions that Trump was able to mislead and abuse. And people fell for the trap… again.

8. Yup. But to be fair, they were put in a shitty situation because of Biden‘s ego. Fuck Biden.

9. unfortunately their campaign was not going to recover from the perception of Biden. it’s not that he had horrendous policies, but he physically could not make the argument for his administrations accomplishments.

10. Their problem was that a shocking number of Americans have been brainwashed by conservative media. They live in an alternate reality. The problem was not with Harris and Walz. The problem was with America. A lot of people don’t want to admit it, but it’s true. Their loss was a symptom of a diseased populace.

    Americans elected a racist misogynistic traitor. That was and continues to be the real problem we face.

11. Whoever decided that calling them weird wasn’t working should be dropkicked to the moon

12. I mean, duh? The Dems need to lean further left, it’s what everyone who didn’t vote for them this time has been begging for.

13. Why did Walz listen to all the idiots that ran and ruined Kamala’s campaign. I think he destroyed his brand. Too bad because I liked him a lot more than his running mate. The day after he accepted the nomination and gave his speech which I liked, they neutered him.

14. They ran the same strategy as Clinton who previously lost to Trump…

    They muzzled Walz for some reason even though his rhetoric was popular out the gate and they didnt learn a thing!

    Electing Ken Martin who goes on about good billionaires, Hakeem Jeffries trying to cster to billionaires while he seems to have disdain for his own base and Chuck Schumer with his pathetic “We will win” cheer.

    I swear to you the dems will lose again to the GOP no matter how much Trump messes things up if they don’t actually offer something to their base.

    Instead they listen to Carville and play dead while everyone suffers.

15. ONce you get into the bubble it is probably hard to know what is happening outside of paid advisor circle.

16. Well, first, they placated to Republicans way too much. The Democrat base is historically fickle, but larger than the Republican base. Personally, I think they should’ve been very progressive with their campaign and promised broad sweeping reforms that benefit the middle class. Kamala was way too broad, centrist, and non-specific with her plans. Additionally, don’t say you’re OK with trans prisoners getting operations or having nothing to say when they ask you how you would do things different from Biden. Go on Joe Rogan‘s podcast and don’t be scared of things like that. Lastly, don’t be scared to say things negative about Israel. Obviously, there is more than one answer to what Democrats did wrong, but this is just my thoughts poured out.

17. Dems need to be spending every waking hour devising strategies to counter the armies of misinformation dipshits and searching for charismatic young leaders that can win in landslides. Looking miffed at speeches isn’t cutting it.
    All these boomers in office can’t keep up with the state of the world as it is now and it’s time for a refresh.

18. Harris Waltz lost when Trump was not arrested and jailed immediately after the insurrection. (See Bolsannaro). Nobody took the Dems seriously after that

19. No, they were a terrible choice. Kamala wasn’t even close to becoming the nominee 4 years earlier

20. This is a bunch of bs. They lost because the Republicans blatantly lied about their positions in the biggest bait and switch in American history. Trump literally stopped questions at one of his interviews and danced awkwardly for 30+ min. GTFO Harris/Walz were too safe.

21. It’s because there is nothing progressive about the establishment Democratic Party. I think the people want progressives but unfortunately they’re only allowing moderates.

    The parties in the us at this point are far right and conservative. The dems are cashing their checks and don’t really care about fixing the country.

    This seems to be at all levels- I started doing a lot of volunteer work with my local county dems after the loss in 2016, and every time I mentioned being a Bernie supporter or anything progressive, I was literally laughed at. No one could even fathom why I’d voted for Bernie over Clinton. I watched a one hour presentation going district by district asking why people had failed to turn out for Clinton as they had for Obama. It was like watching people beat themselves with a stick.

    Pelosi recently blocked AOC from a committee position, further making sure no progressives can do anything. They know that a true progressive will change their status quo and they don’t want that.

    The Democratic Party is a farce.

22. They were normal people who wanted to see Americans flourish.

23. The Dems lost primarily because Biden didn’t step aside soon enough to have a primary.

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