Elon Musk suggests the US should leave NATO, saying it ‘doesn’t make sense’ for the US to pay for Europe’s defense

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-suggests-the-us-should-leave-nato-2025-3

50 comments

  1. 179 British service personnel died in the Iraq War, and 139 service personnel from other European nations died.

  2. Elon should leave the US and go back to South Africa and worry about his country.

  3. It’s truly a miracle(*) that this dunderhead was able to amass such a huge amount of money.

    Does he understand things like the difference between correlation and causation? Or is he still struggling with object permanence?

    The US is in Europe for it’s own defense and interests.

    (*) Of course he started with huge piles of money which made it possible.

  4. What’s up with the revisionist history? Isn’t the US the only country to actually call on NATO aid?

  5. The USA is the only country that has ever invoked Article 5.

  6. Well according to Dumbfuck Donald’s logic it doesn’t make sense that the world ‘subsidizes’ the US economy.

  7. Remember. The dude who had to pay kids to play games for him, because he said it’s too hard to beat Asians, is now suddenly an expert we should trust on foreign policy and national security.

  8. Won’t make sense for Canada to join the USA on its next rampage

  11. The US also shouldn’t pay for his Tax Cuts. Musk
    is such a tool.

  12. Wasn’t the whole point of NATO to get the other signatory countries to standardize their logistics and simultaneously purchase all their needs from the USA?

    That’s how I read into it…so I guess if you wanna be poorer in the USA, go ahead? They definitely won’t buy your weapons if you leave, fuck they already won’t now tbh

  13. Musk is obviously an astute student of history. What a loser.

  14. He is a libertarian and libertarianism really is one of the dumbest political philosophies.

  15. What doesn’t make sense, is having a *civilian* talk about such things.

  16. And morons everywhere will buy this with 0 thought for why NATO exists in the first place.

  18. Last time i check no one voted for you for anything

  19. Seriously, who gives a shit what this asswipe thinks….

  20. He’s right, why is the American public paying to defend Tesla dealerships? He’s a billionaire, he can pay for his own defense of his dealerships.

  21. Who’s gonna tell him Europe buying made in Europe weapons means american manufacturers lose biollions of dollars?

  24. Remember when the US created NATO to prevent the expansion of Russia and to keep the Cold War ‘over there’ and not in North America? Animal Farms remembers. 

  25. Can someone explain me again why a not-elected Billionaire that has people play videogames for him is treated like a political entity of its own? Is this the start of our cyberpunk dystopia? Through Musk and Twitter? Are we serious?

    I understand brain dead MAGA people. I understand Trump being elected. But how in hell there isn’t some kind of system in place to stop this random guy to have this much say in US politics when he isn’t involved in the Congress or whatever else?

    Plus, there really isn’t *ANYTHING* about him having biased interests due to the simple fact that Starlink is a thing?
    It would be like some big dude at Lockhead behaving like an important american politician and forcing a country to do what they want or they won’t sell them weaponry.

    Of course, this kind of influence has always existed. But it is used subtly and just to nudge people in the direction you want them to go. It shouldn’t be possible to use it brazenly and openly as if it is normal.

  26. TWO WORLD WARS.

    TWO!!!

    FKING TWO FKING WORLD WARS!!!!!!!!!

    DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE GOD DAMN HISTORY!!!

  27. Elon, piss off! You need to get the hell out of my government you pasty white, fucking weirdo!

  29. South African ketamine addicted weighs in on US foreign policy

  30. Who cares what Musk says? He’s not elected and he hasn’t been reviewed and confirmed by the US Senate so his position is not even constitutional.

  31. That sounds like something a Nazi would want when planning a war.

  33. If Elon knew how the internet works, he could have looked up some interesting facts when he and his brother were illegally working in America on student visas, that the only NATO member to ever invoke Article 5 of an attack on one NATO member is an attack on all members was…

    America. After 9/11.

    NATO and without question Canada, stood shoulder to shoulder with America, as Canada has always done; NATO all supported America for TWO DECADES in their “war on terror”.

  35. See how well the US military does without any foreign bases, no place to refuel ships and planes, no food resupplies, and no intelligence from outside the US.

  36. It doesn’t make sense for an unelected dude to even be in this conversation.

  37. He’s just doing his part to help destroy the US government.

    Updated on March 9, 2025

    Our constitutional government is under attack from the inside by three groups. All three groups are willing to work together for now. They don’t care if they destroy much of the country in the process of changing it to match their vision. It’s a self-coup as they work to make sure they stay in power.

    They have three different visions for the future. The common theme is ending democracy. We may still have pretend elections as pep rallies for the authoritarian government.

    There’s some overlap between the goals of the three groups; but their ideas are different enough that the destruction, when they turn against each other, will be devastating.

    The “Tech Bros” want technological fascism; a dystopia where they use AI and other technologies to fully control the masses. Crypto currency will be used internationally for money replacing the US dollar. Elon Musk is their front man.

    The Heritage Foundation wants an Iranian style theocracy for Christianity. Russ Vought is their front man. This is Old Testament, eye for an eye, Christianity. It’s not the be kind to each other Christianity taught by Jesus.

    Russian assets want an authoritarian oligarchy with a puppet dictator controlled from Moscow. Trump is their man; I don’t know if he’s an unwitting dupe or actively embracing the role. Nikita Khrushchev said many years ago they would take over the USA without firing a shot; they are very close.

    The legislative branch has failed as a check on the president. The GOP holds the majority of both chambers. Most GOP officials are part of one of groups overthrowing the constitution. The others are afraid to deviate from Trump’s orders. The Tech Bros threaten to primary them. The J6ers threaten them physically. Most Democrats of both chambers are completely at a loss with how to handle a hostile takeover. They are still trying traditional political strategies that will not work. Some may be part of one of the groups. A few are trying to resist but they don’t have enough support. Congress has been shirking its responsibilities for decades by ceding power to the president; they have reached a catastrophic tipping point.

    The judicial branch has failed as a check on the president, though some lower courts are resisting. In the past few years, the Supreme Court has made decisions that undermine democracy by giving the president immunity for crimes and allowing opaque unlimited campaign contributions. When the president is so obviously wrong that this court rules against him, there’s no way to enforce the ruling without the legislative branch.

    Most of the media has been bought by the Tech Bros, infiltrated by the Heritage Foundation, or have become Russian assets. Some are actively supporting the attack, most are intentionally ignoring it. It’s working, most of the population seems not to notice or not to care about the coup.

    Leaders with enough fame to grab the public’s attention are desperately needed to inform the public and aid in stopping this coup. Traditional political leaders are not equipped to deal with this crisis.

    Boycotts and peaceful protests are the actions that have the best chance of growing into a massive general strike. A massive general strike is our best chance to stop the coup.

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    3 groups are inside the US gov. working together to destroy it.

    They will start fighting as they try to build a new government. Each has a different vision for the future:

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  38. It doesn’t make sense for the US to finance Musk’s various companies, yet we do.

  39. Who gives a single FUCK what Muskrat thinks about world affairs. He has a bizarre, dystopian worldview that NOBODY FUCKING VOTED FOR. He’s a freak & should have no voice or role in our government.

  42. Doesn’t make sense for the only country in the history of NATO to ask for NATO’s help to continue to be in NATO.

    Hitting the ketamine hard today.

  43. Only once in the history of NATO was article 5 invoked. And that was by the US after the 9/11 attacks. Maybe we should send a bill?

  44. Elon is the poster boy for the dunning kruger effect.

    He thinks because he did well in business, he therefore must be an expert in other domains like politics, economics, government administration etc.

    He is imploding before our very eyes.

  45. World War II

    Definitive reason we are a super power.

    Does no one read anymore?

  46. What doesn’t make sense is this parasite speaking on behalf of the USA

  48. Suggesting we leave NATO is exactly what I would say if I was Putin’s little bitch boy.

  49. This guy, like Trump, is an ignorant moron. Just because they have a megaphone and speak loudly, confidently incorrectly, and often, doesn’t mean they know shit from boot polish.

  50. The United States should shut down Tesla and Starlink and deport Elon Musk. It doesn’t make sense for the American citizen to be subsidizing businesses and paying a ransom person’s salary.

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