Did the Telegraph deliberately get it wrong about London immigration?

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1. Does the Pope shit in the woods?

   Everyone knows the Telegraph leans right, why would they not pander/lie to their audience to sell more papers?

   Newspaper journalism in the Uk tends to be extremely unreliable if you’re looking for an unbiased view, and the papers know exactly how to word things in specific ways to not breach any laws. And if they do get caught out, they post a tiny apology/correction on page 20 that they know no one will read

   Tabloid papers are one of many things in the Uk that need major reform/regulatory oversight, which will never happen, much to the detriment of the country as a whole.

2. Of course they got it wrong deliberately, anything to get views and sell papers. Corrections can be issued afterwards, no-one cares about those.

3. I normally use ‘Betteridge’s Law of Headlines’ for things like this but it wouldn’t work this time.

4. It’s a fascist rag, so yes.

   It’s just the same as Der Stürmer.

5. Of course it did. Does anyone not know that the Telegraph is a lying tabloid rag?

6. They did it on purpose and now this false figure is a fact for many…

   Like BoJo’s bendy bananas…you start with a lie, repeat it, repeat it and then the whole country believes in it.

7. They know their audience and what they want to hear. They will claim it was a mistake but they did it try and sell a few more papers, otherwise they might have bothered to apologise for their actions.

8. To be Frank, mass immigration is the best thing to happen to this country.

9. As a point of interest. In what circumstances would they not know the nationality of a convict? I said this event to my right wing brother and he said “if they don’t know, they’re not British”, which seemed a reasonable point, but I’m open to understanding how it could not be.

   Edit: I seem to be getting downvotes for asking a question… come on guys, this is Reddit, let’s be better than that!

10. They’re a tabloid that should be banned from Reddit

11. Every single day someone usually with a new account posts a damn article that can be summed up as “immigrants bad” of course they did it on purpose, the vast majority of their articles are either flat out lies or manipulations.

12. So what is the correct number? Lots saying it’s wrong without evidence? Curious.

13. > No one doubts that there are a substantial number of illegal residents in London, with the typical individual more likely to be a student who has overstayed their visa rather than someone who crossed the English Channel on a small boat. If Cuibus had to guess, he would suggest the number of illegal immigrants in the capital is at the bottom end of Edge’s estimates, or around 1 in 20 of the population — still equivalent to hundreds of thousands of people.

    This also matches up the report from the University of Wolverhamption and the GLA, which found similar numbers.

    > Edge’s February 2023 report estimated that there were between 390,000 and 585,000 “irregular migrants” in the “London water resource zone” which contains around 7m people.

    The denominator issue which was in the initial discussions about this doesn’t exist then? Because the estimate wasn’t for Greater London but for the London Water Resource Zone. The main issue with the article was it said these were illegal migrants whereas they are actually what the article calls irregular, basically the total population minus the people who are expected to be there as legal residents, which includes various groups as well as the illegal figure.

14. Yes. Same as with trans issues, “benefit scroungers”, moslems, etc.

    Next question

15. That’s a novel way of saying “Did the Torygraph print lies about London immigration?”.

    Btw the answer is unequivocally yes.

16. Muppets on here arguing it was true too. Never been to London probably just believing everything the racist news says.

17. The Telegraph doesn’t report facts it prints entertainment articles for pensioners who’s worldview entirely consists of “we need another Thatcher”.

18. sTORYgraph is not a news source

    it is an infamous propaganda outlet for NON DOM tax evading media baron, to spread fake news, misinformation and misdirection

19. When has a right-wing billionaire-owned “news”paper ever misrepresented the truth to inflame anger against foreigners in a way that gives political (and therefore financial) advantage?

20. Read the telegraph, then read the guardian, then throw a dart somewhere in between.

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