Military officials from more than 30 nations will take part in Paris talks on the creation of an international security force for Ukraine

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1. >The long list of participants in Tuesday’s discussions will also include Asian and Oceania nations that will join remotely, the French official said. The international makeup of the meeting offers an indication of how broadly France and Britain — which are working together on plans for the force — are casting their net as they aim to build what the French official described as **a coalition of nations “able and willing” to be part of an effort to safeguard Ukraine in the event of a ceasefire**.

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   >**The official said the United States wasn’t invited because European nations want to demonstrate that they can take responsibility for a large part of the post-ceasefire security framework for Ukraine.**

   > Also attending will be the chiefs of staff of Ireland and Cyprus and a representative from Austria — all nations that are not NATO members but are in the European Union.

   > Australia and New Zealand, which are Commonwealth nations, as well as Japan and South Korea, will listen into the talks remotely, the official said.

   > Ukraine will be represented by a military official who is also a member of the country’s security and defense council.

2. Trump has gone on record as saying Putin will allow European peace keepers in Ukraine post cease fire. There is no reason that the US will stand against this coalition providing security to Ukraine. It is potentially going to be one of the most significant moments in world history how this plays out.

3. Ukraine will not survive on money and arms deliveries alone. Eventually securing ground can be sufficiently supported by armed forces from several countries as they are.

   If we allow one European nation to just be slow crushed, we abandon our idea of a secure Europe of sovereign nations.

4. I’m tired of hearing about talks. Europe loves to talk about solutions. Let’s see some action.

   Either you believe Ukraine’s defense is imperative to European survival or you don’t. And if you aren’t willing to act shut the fuck up and start learning how to prepare your population for meat wave defense and drone warfare.

5. I suspect that just as the US changed its mind and moved closer to russia, this whole European army thing is nothing more than following the US order to increase military spending… but the project had to be sold to the Europeans. Russia was already the bad guy in the movie and thanks to them reducing the welfare state and incurring a huge debt became possible….

   All these countries that are now making plans for an arms industry and a joint army are not thinking about ukraine… because no industry is built with money alone, it takes years, an army, weapons, ammunition, everything takes years… ukraine has not years, but months left.

   So what is the idea?…usa is going against china, they need russia to at least stay neutral, while they lead europe into a war where there will be nothing left of them…nothing of their welfare, nothing of their industry…nothing of anything.

   So much barking at Russia, only to end up fighting side by side… against an enemy that did nothing to them.

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