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Germany Concerned Over F-35 ‘Kill Switch’ Amid US Policy Shifts

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  1. The way things are going in the future none would believe that few decades back almost more than half of the world relied on US for its defence equipments

  2. Multi-billion dollar bricks if orange stain has a bad sleep. Gotta do some soul searching if you’re going to rely on the USA moving forward.

  3. When your ally is turning into an adversary, best not rely on them to supply you with weapons to defend yourself

  4. it is wild how much damage has been done in less than 2 months.

    so much for creating jobs in the US, europe just announced almost a trillion dollars in military expenditures… now most of that will not go into the US since everyone is worried about the fact the US is not really selling you things as much as leasing them to you clearly

  5. oh man this is bad

    I’d be freaking the fuck out if I was part of the military industrial complex right now, they just admitted American weapons can’t be trusted

  6. This is why India bought Rafale from France despite significant pressure to buy F16s. So far all purchases are limited to reconnaissance and surveillance against China.

  7. I hope Canada started work yesterday to reduce dependence on US weapons. Typhoons?

  8. Trump forces the NATO countries to raise their spending.
    Trump forces NATO countries to not buy US based.
    Trump remains the greatest genius.

  9. This is going to destroy all US weapon exports, nice.

    So it’s great again?

  11. Have they googled for some tutorials on how to jailbreak an F35 yet?

  13. Kinda dumb to agree to be buying a multi billion dollar military equipment with a kill switch you don’t control if you ask me. If the reason is “US is our closest ally” then tell me why would a close ally want to have complete control over a kill switch?

  14. Time to fire up the Messerschmitt factories and produce inhouse planes again.

  15. Forcing America First onto other countries, like in Europe, will put America in last place. Telling Europe not to expect America to be dependable will do just that. I’m amazed that rightoids don’t get this.

  17. This is why US defence stocks are all shorts.

    Nobody is buying their shit when the orange shit stain is clearly not an ally.

  18. Europe needs to strip out the avionics and rebuild themselves, like the Brits and Israelis did, I think they are the only partners who did this.

  19. Well, take a step back and ask yourself if you trust a country run by people like trump, Vance, mtg, boebert, etc. to have the keys to your military.  I wouldn’t go to a McDonald’s run by these fools.  It’s impossible to trust them.

  20. One of the main selling points of US produced defence systems is that you have a large window of operational sovereignty over their use. For many it’s a bigger priority over capability or economics.

    That’s gone now. There’s a saying that markets have no memory. Defence markets sure do though!

    Trumps administration is doing generational damage to the US’s international standing.

  21. Do you remember that vast and lucrative military industrial complex we spent the past 100 years building? So much for that

  22. So F-35 software/avionics comes with DRM?

    You either trust the countries you sell F-35s to or you don’t.

  23. This is huge, America is now a huge weapons dealer with undesirable weapons. You also don’t want to get involved in trade with the USA as it will be held over your head. This is a historic collapse.

  24. You don’t need a kill switch to cripple the technology. Apparently US disabled ECM on F16s on Ukraine; they can still fly, but are much more vulnerable without countermeasures.
    For Starlink, there’s a rumor that Musk is sending coordinates of Ukrainian units using it. That would be even more sinister: you are not unable to use it, but if you do Russians will know your position.

  25. Canada, Germany and other European countries should cancel their order if possible and temporarily buy Gripens, Rafales or Eurofighters as a stop gap and collaborate for a 5/6th gen fighter.

  26. My thoughts as someone who worked (in a past life) in defense trade for 15 or so years:

    it is well known that American defense technology, whether obtained through the Foreign Military Sales (FMS, G2G route) or Direct Commercial Sales (DCS, B2G route), is subjected to End Use Monitoring and any accompanying restrictions (provisos) that the State Department issues as part of the condition of sale.

    Foreign allied or partner countries were permitted varying degrees of sensitive technology, governed amongst other things by the United States Munitions List (USML) and Commerce Controlled List (CCL), which are pretty hard and fast rules based “export control”guides. In simple terms, European NATO Allies, and members of 5Eyes were permitted certain surveillance capabilities, higher levels of electro-optical / infrared sensor capabilities, precision munitions, etc.. the idea being that allies needed two key things to ensure success-

    1. Interoperability with US systems (secured communications, fire controls, identifying friend / for (IFF))

    2. The best and most capable technology to support the American led alliance in a war against an adversary. Increasingly, throughout a post Afghanistan era, that adversary was China.

    The F35 represented the pinnacle of interoperability and served, despite all its criticisms of cost of operations, limited use, single engine, and maintainability, the greatest international platform of alliance because of something called Industrial Participation.

    Industrial Participation, also referred to as offsets, meant that purchasing countries got to be part of the supply chain and have skin in the game on the F35 system. Maybe it meant Raytheon / UTC (now RTX) would supply weapons and engine components manufactured in Canada not only for the Canadian F35 program, but the global fleet (for scale and consistency and international user agreed quality consistency).

    Maybe it meant Israeli EO/IR, maybe it meant airframes and wire harnessing support out of Norwegian or Belgian, Danish, Czech, Greek, Italian, Japanese, Dutch, Romanian, Swiss, British, Singaporean, or Australian operator industries. These are real, global commitments to an alliance and operators of the F35 platform.

    These are also international operators that signed up for certain restrictions of use of the F35 for offensive capabilities against an adversary because, in simple terms, the US wouldn’t want certain radar signatures or communication patterns or flight maneuverability to be known by enemy combatants.

    But none of them – absolutely none of them- signed up to be arbitrarily abandoned and rendered inoperable because of a singular executive order or to have their defense backbone shattered because of economic trade issues. America never goes to war with another country that has a McDonald’s, as they say.

    This would effectively be declaring a war on our allies.

    So when you read, and writhe, about this imbecilic, myopic behavior, that gut instinct of yours that says “this shit is really bad” is fundamentally accurate.

    God save us.

  27. I’ve already written my representatives that we need to cancel the Candian deal. They threatened our sovereignty we cannot trust them to not Killswitch these things in 3 years when Donald finally decides to invade us. Turning them into bricks that will then steal from us for their own military use.

    I don’t even want USA radars on our ships any longer. They honestly cannot be trusted not to have backdoors into these things. Add on the fact they can just cut off supply chains or maintenance and their systems are clearly a massive national security risk.

  28. US is gonna lose alot. These MAGA idiots thinking they just fund the world. They do not understand, US is also making a killing in defence contracts for the allies. This pretty much they shot themselves at the foot.

  29. …. Well I guess that is it for the U.S military Exports huh.

    No one will buy U.S made tech which the U.S controls.

    Good riddance, I say.

    Also – Fuck Trump.

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