Germany supports the creation of a European Army (survey)

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by EUstrongerthanUS

26 comments
  1. Establish the European army already! We’re tired of endless discussions. We want the European Union Armed Forces.

  2. The main reason it has not been created so far is that the member states distrust each other and have their own interests.

    For example, the European army is often discussed with the West in mind, but the southern flank is being overlooked.

    Until all parties reach a genuine agreement on cooperation and mutual trust, the creation of a European army will not move forward.

  3. They finally stopped using the national flags for the No-Options it seems, good.

  4. How does this poll result seem accurate considering the numbers that voted for AFD?

  5. This army is running low on weapons,how are you going to create it?

    Fico and orban are other obstacles

  6. Start with a European Air Force and logistics service ffs…

  7. Almost everything I have heard about European defense is about the politics, popularity or financing.

    Where is the discussion about what this army is, how it works, where it is, how big it is? What is the command structure? Mandate?

  8. A European army or an EU specific commitment from the existing national armies?

    One would be more successful than the other

  9. Yeah because then we can pass the responsibility for our defense to someone else again. Germans are allergic to military responsibility

  10. Well, I do not think we will see a european army per se soon….BUT we already see a lot of military consolidiation. Not to the degree we get some major weapons system for all of europe, like one type of tank, one type of personal weapon etc…..but at least it is going down from like 16 types of different systems of the same class to maybe 3 or 4.

  11. I am a german professional soldier and i am against this. I ofc am pro working together very close to our EU allies, but i don’t see an EU army happening. Too many things that don’t work out. Payment, giving orders, serving for our constitution and our citizens by oath. Who fights and loses soldiers and who is just in the back, giving orders, organizing, supporting etc? You can’t make it fair.

  12. I’m from 🇷🇴 and I totally agree with that. I would go to war to defend any European country, and to defend our land.

  13. This is very insightful. This means more people is in favour of an EU army than the AfD. What this means is that part of the AfD voters are pro-European.

    European leaders should wake up and do some critical thinking on what problems concern these voters as much as to vote a far-right party, even if that means scrificing Europe’s unity. I am willing to be that bringing them back to traditional parties would not be that hard if they actually had the balls to speak about those issues.

  14. There is just zero political momentum for it. It would also mean, that each EU country would give up its military sovereignty towards EU institutions and who would become the commander in chief?. Nobody is going to do that. Certainly not with the current state of the EU. We need more progress with the EU integration. Like the EU passport or the EU constitution. We couldn’t even do that. Since than, the EU is just lethargically status quo. We can’t even change the veto mechanism and get rid of Orban.

  15. Good that Germany supports forming a Euroarmy. Now what about the rest of the EU?

  16. Give it a cool name too. European continental army or something like that.

  17. Any EU army will need the involvement of the UK and the burden will have to be equally split/ shared between the main parties and not a situation where the UK is doing more than its fair share and France isn’t.

  18. Crazy they almost elect an anti-EU party and are debating remaining in the Schengen zone. One has to wonder if they know just the what the fuck they want!

  19. Honestly, how is this even a discussion? Shit or get off the pot. The EU has been around like what, 30 years now? And no army? The whole world (except apparently Trump) sees how much of a threat Russia is… it’s way beyond time that the EU had a well armed, well funded, standing army… let’s goooooo

  20. Logistics wins battles, probably better off with an united european logistics group, then air force, then army

  21. Dear European neighbors from Germany, Austria, Italy, Hungary and Slovakia. Hope you don’t mind my question.
    Would you agree with the below statement?

    Given the historical context as well as current political situation some of your neighbors may have potential concerns about your military expansion and it may be prudent to place certain limitations on the ability of your countries to grow in military strength. This would ensure that your contributions align with the broader goals of collective security and stability within the EU, while maintaining a balanced and accountable approach to defense capabilities. Strong European army standing together.

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