> These cuts are going to have tangible and devastating impacts on the lives of ordinary, working people. It will mean that people will be unable to access the care they need in order to survive. It will ruin livelihoods and have unconscionable consequences for wellbeing and mental health.
> A Labour government should not be doing this. Yet, here we are.
> It’s not because they actually care about helping people who have disabilities or health conditions. If they did, they would be working to fix the NHS or making education more accessible, for example.
> Instead, it’s because they see people who claim benefits as a political weapon.
> To Labour, we are nothing more as fodder in a nasty battle – waged primarily online – to steal Reform votes from the Tories.
Most people will become disabled before the end of their lives. Remember that.
Great straw man here.
God damnit keir i liked some of what you were doing, now you’re just proving eveyone who called you a red tory right.
This is typical Labour. Gordon Brown’s government went after the sick and disabled after crashing the economy in 2008. Nasty hypocritical bigoted people.
Because Labour under Starmer are scumbags.
If people wanted a Labour Government, they should have backed Corbyn
Quite simply, Labour Neoliberals, exactly like the Tories, do not see Disabled people as people of equal worth to those able to work. Humanity has one purpose to them and its to generate shareholder value for their backers.
Disabled people have no powerful advocates, there is no organised lobby who will threaten the control the ruling party has. So Neoliberals can without any consequence or pushback at all, enact economic violence against people too ill to fight back.
Disabled people are the easiest targets in the UK, alongside asylum seekers.
if you are genuinely claiming and in need, you are not the problem. Thats my basic understanding.
Lets be honest, who doesn’t know of someone ripping the piss out of the system in some pseudo avoidance scheme accessed through the key word bullshit bingo, once opened, never to return. Its a fucking joke, so people who are genuinely claiming should see the benefit of getting the freeloaders and avoidants off the scheme…
just how much tax are hardworking families ment to pay?? its never enough and never will be while shit like this gets worse!
Because you’re vulnerable and poor and your vote doesn’t matter because we’ll get votes from Tory racists now instead and because you’re not going to turn up at a fancy engagement and make the PM feel uncomfortable like millionaires could.
I think they say you’re the problem because you’re fit to work, meaning you’re getting AT LEAST minimum wage which has increased over the past few years and/or cash in hand, suggesting you’re not so ill, maimed or disabled that you can’t work, but you ALSO get free money. There should be no excuses or need for this.
I work too. Where is my free money?
Her mentality kind of wreaks of greed and lack of consideration for people that really, really, REALLY need the benefit allowances more than the flimflam fraudsters like her.
You’re not
It’s the people who think disability is not being able to get their arses of the sofa to work who are the problem
I will quote one of the greatest philosophers in Scotland.
“If God wanted us to know about cuisine, he’d never have gave us crispy pancakes!” -Rab C Nesbitt
We all need to remember we’re in an information bubble on Reddit , particularly on this sub.
Sadly this policy will play well with much of the electorate – especially those cunting themselves on 12 hour nightshifts just to see the taxman have him way with your wages at the end of the month.
Weather wrong or right , when you’re working and a large chunk of your money goes to those who are not, it still stings .
We also need to be realistic . Where is the money to come from to pay for all this ? By all means make the rich pay more of their share , but it’s still not going to be enough.
The way right-wingers, centrists (and even some purportedly left wing people) in this country talk about disabled people is disgusting and dehumanizing.
They will do anything to find a scapegoat for the economic ills of the country, anything other than target the people actually responsible.
It’s always the same predictable playbook, tell the middle and working class that the reason they are getting poorer is due to spongers and immigrants.
It’s definitely not the fault of the wealthy who continue to get richer and richer, hoarding property and resources, exploiting our labor, extracting rent and dividends while doing everything they can to avoid contributing to the society from which they profit.
Majority of our politicians we keep voting in are the exact same, they know nothing about how we live and act in their own interests
Don’t know if where I live is typical when walking my dog the only area with new or fairly new cars is a social housing area. All of them new cost over £35k none of them work and most don’t seem to have mobility issues. One of them referees local football matches has no trouble running around the pitch. Then I see young mums dropping their kids off at school in really old cars before going to work. They work pay taxes usually on low wages is it fair?
This might not be popular here. But the benefit system does need to be fixed.
I’m going through adp with my dad right now.
He’s got copd, Atherosclerosis, and something going on with his spine that it’s fractured twice. They also found something on his pancreas that they suspect is cancer. He was refused any support from them.
I work with 2 people who are much healthier than him and they get adp. There’s 3 people in my street who get it too for alcoholism.
Meanwhile he’s worked all his life and now he’s using a food bank and can’t afford to see his friends in the pub. It’s incredibly frustrating.
They never like to talk about the working disabled. Often the support something like pip is the only thing standing between that person actually being able to work and just not being able to manage.
In real time this will move working people to need to be supported fully by benefits.
If you’re working and are truly equal to everyone else why would you need benefits?
Because they’ve been taken over by Tories. Reform sprung up, so the 2 main ones jumped right to try and combat them, because that obviously makes sense.
Kendal is a grimy POS and totally despicable as are Reeves and Streeting. Would t trust them as far as I could spit them!
Remind me where the line between the previous Tory government and this Labour one is because I’m struggling to see it..
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They don’t.
https://archive.ph/38h2B
> These cuts are going to have tangible and devastating impacts on the lives of ordinary, working people. It will mean that people will be unable to access the care they need in order to survive. It will ruin livelihoods and have unconscionable consequences for wellbeing and mental health.
> A Labour government should not be doing this. Yet, here we are.
> It’s not because they actually care about helping people who have disabilities or health conditions. If they did, they would be working to fix the NHS or making education more accessible, for example.
> Instead, it’s because they see people who claim benefits as a political weapon.
> To Labour, we are nothing more as fodder in a nasty battle – waged primarily online – to steal Reform votes from the Tories.
Most people will become disabled before the end of their lives. Remember that.
Great straw man here.
God damnit keir i liked some of what you were doing, now you’re just proving eveyone who called you a red tory right.
This is typical Labour. Gordon Brown’s government went after the sick and disabled after crashing the economy in 2008. Nasty hypocritical bigoted people.
Because Labour under Starmer are scumbags.
If people wanted a Labour Government, they should have backed Corbyn
Quite simply, Labour Neoliberals, exactly like the Tories, do not see Disabled people as people of equal worth to those able to work. Humanity has one purpose to them and its to generate shareholder value for their backers.
Disabled people have no powerful advocates, there is no organised lobby who will threaten the control the ruling party has. So Neoliberals can without any consequence or pushback at all, enact economic violence against people too ill to fight back.
Disabled people are the easiest targets in the UK, alongside asylum seekers.
if you are genuinely claiming and in need, you are not the problem. Thats my basic understanding.
Lets be honest, who doesn’t know of someone ripping the piss out of the system in some pseudo avoidance scheme accessed through the key word bullshit bingo, once opened, never to return. Its a fucking joke, so people who are genuinely claiming should see the benefit of getting the freeloaders and avoidants off the scheme…
just how much tax are hardworking families ment to pay?? its never enough and never will be while shit like this gets worse!
Because you’re vulnerable and poor and your vote doesn’t matter because we’ll get votes from Tory racists now instead and because you’re not going to turn up at a fancy engagement and make the PM feel uncomfortable like millionaires could.
I think they say you’re the problem because you’re fit to work, meaning you’re getting AT LEAST minimum wage which has increased over the past few years and/or cash in hand, suggesting you’re not so ill, maimed or disabled that you can’t work, but you ALSO get free money. There should be no excuses or need for this.
I work too. Where is my free money?
Her mentality kind of wreaks of greed and lack of consideration for people that really, really, REALLY need the benefit allowances more than the flimflam fraudsters like her.
You’re not
It’s the people who think disability is not being able to get their arses of the sofa to work who are the problem
I will quote one of the greatest philosophers in Scotland.
“If God wanted us to know about cuisine, he’d never have gave us crispy pancakes!” -Rab C Nesbitt
We all need to remember we’re in an information bubble on Reddit , particularly on this sub.
Sadly this policy will play well with much of the electorate – especially those cunting themselves on 12 hour nightshifts just to see the taxman have him way with your wages at the end of the month.
Weather wrong or right , when you’re working and a large chunk of your money goes to those who are not, it still stings .
We also need to be realistic . Where is the money to come from to pay for all this ? By all means make the rich pay more of their share , but it’s still not going to be enough.
The way right-wingers, centrists (and even some purportedly left wing people) in this country talk about disabled people is disgusting and dehumanizing.
They will do anything to find a scapegoat for the economic ills of the country, anything other than target the people actually responsible.
It’s always the same predictable playbook, tell the middle and working class that the reason they are getting poorer is due to spongers and immigrants.
It’s definitely not the fault of the wealthy who continue to get richer and richer, hoarding property and resources, exploiting our labor, extracting rent and dividends while doing everything they can to avoid contributing to the society from which they profit.
Majority of our politicians we keep voting in are the exact same, they know nothing about how we live and act in their own interests
Don’t know if where I live is typical when walking my dog the only area with new or fairly new cars is a social housing area. All of them new cost over £35k none of them work and most don’t seem to have mobility issues. One of them referees local football matches has no trouble running around the pitch. Then I see young mums dropping their kids off at school in really old cars before going to work. They work pay taxes usually on low wages is it fair?
This might not be popular here. But the benefit system does need to be fixed.
I’m going through adp with my dad right now.
He’s got copd, Atherosclerosis, and something going on with his spine that it’s fractured twice. They also found something on his pancreas that they suspect is cancer. He was refused any support from them.
I work with 2 people who are much healthier than him and they get adp. There’s 3 people in my street who get it too for alcoholism.
Meanwhile he’s worked all his life and now he’s using a food bank and can’t afford to see his friends in the pub. It’s incredibly frustrating.
They never like to talk about the working disabled. Often the support something like pip is the only thing standing between that person actually being able to work and just not being able to manage.
In real time this will move working people to need to be supported fully by benefits.
If you’re working and are truly equal to everyone else why would you need benefits?
Because they’ve been taken over by Tories. Reform sprung up, so the 2 main ones jumped right to try and combat them, because that obviously makes sense.
Kendal is a grimy POS and totally despicable as are Reeves and Streeting. Would t trust them as far as I could spit them!
Remind me where the line between the previous Tory government and this Labour one is because I’m struggling to see it..
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