Keir Starmer could face biggest rebellion over disability benefit freeze

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1. Good, not sure how they are apparently surprised by opposition from their MPs over this. 

   Anyone with any basic morality would surely oppose taking from the most vulnerable and an already poor community, especially after charities have explained how disastrous this would be for the disabled.

2. As long as Starmer targets those that are swinging the lead then good. The people who need support should get it. Those that are playing the system. Get off your backsides.

3. I like starmer but god please just tax the rich, it cannot be that hard.

4. Hope so. I’m not often angered with politics or “they are all the same MPs” type. However, if what is rumoured to be true it’s outrageously horrific.

5. 1.5 million immigrants on benefits you know where to start Keir

6. weed out those not suited to pragmatism and higher office

7. Just take and resell all those Russian mansions in Chelsea. Then put 2% tax on all wealth over £10m and we are sorted. Wasn’t hard was it?

8. Starmer was asked during PMQs to confirm that disability benefits for people unable to work wouldn’t be cut, and he ducked the question.

   It’s obvious what’s coming in the green paper, and any Labour MP with a conscience should stand up to it.

9. If he ends up passing this with the help of Tories he’ll never live it down.

10. Stop giving migrants hotel rooms for starters! Once there are zero benefits going to economic migrants only then should we even consider cuts to British people, if at all! Cut the foreign aid budget to ZERO!

11. I don’t see how any government can fix this mess.

    14 years of dismantling and destruction. It’s an impossible task

12. Apparently it’s impossible to have any rational discussion on disability benefits since *nobody* could be abusing the system

13. What about people with epilepsy and autism those who struggle to even use a fridge let alone a toaster?

14. Where are the people who were praising Starmer? They were vocal enough about the farm tax, higher tax on big engines trucks (that farmers and people who do manual work actually need), higher contributions for employers (even though it’ll mean fewer jobs).

15. It’s genuinely true that the current government is just literally following Cameron/Johnson’s “Bumper Book of Austerity”.

    Such a joke.

16. The only good thing he has done is his commitment to Ukraine. Over than he’s just a Tory in a red tie.

17. I used to make fun of those who were saying that before we remove the torries from no10, we need to kick them out of the labour party first. I do owe a few apologies, I was wrong.

18. I swear every week there’s a news headline about people trying to rebel against starmer

19. Starmer crushed the last rebellion harder than Palpatine, so I don’t think he’s too worried.

20. I have seen so many posts trying to justify what Labour are doing.. here are some facts for you..

    “The DWP considers that the rate of fraud in relation to personal independence payment (PIP) is so small that it is assessed at 0% in the 2024 *“Fraud and error in the benefits system annual report”.*  In total, the combined rate for both fraud and error in universal credit (UC) is 32 times higher than for PIP”

    The report looks at fraud and other overpayments in the benefits system.

    It found that the rate of fraud for different benefits in the year ending April 2024 was:

    * Universal credit (UC) 10.9%
    * Pension credit  (PC) 3.9%
    * Housing benefit (HB) 3.9%
    * Personal independence payment  (PIP) 0%

    To all those saying “I know lots of people falsely claiming PIP” you full of crap..

    So the Government going after Disabled people has absolutely nothing to fraud, just like the Tories its ideological.

    You want people off PIP then invest in the NHS, especially when it comes to Mental Health. Making people want months, even years for a CBT course that lasts a few weeks is not helping, its like pissing in the sea.

    My 13 yr old Son’s Teachers, The Student Care Team at his school and his GP all believe he meets the criteria for ADHD however the waiting list to get him professionally assessed is 2 years.

    Yet instead of investing in Mental Health Services so young people can get seen in a few weeks / months instead of blood years they want to make even more difficult..

    In what world does that make any sense?

    Mental health Issue are on the rise because people can’t get the help that they need early on so they spend years suffering which results in their condition getting much worse.

    It is like any health condition, the early you can treat it, the better the outcome.

21. “the bill for disability benefits, which rose by nearly £13bn to £48bn between 2019-20 and 2023-24”

    That is insane. We don’t have 3-4 times as many disabled people as we did 5 years ago..

22. He should. At the moment he looks like he is just doing this stuff to be nasty. While keeping the money for migrants.

23. Billionaires exist. Why isn’t that fact alone a major political issue needing tackled? One persons wealth shouldn’t be able to change all of this and we certainly shouldn’t be talking about freezing fuckin disability benefits when such people *can change it*

24. **The moral test of government is how it treats those who are in the dawn of life, the children; those who are in the twilight of life, the aged; and those in the shadows of life, the sick, the needy and the handicapped.**

    Hubert Humphrey

25. Hopefully this means he reconsiders. We can’t have another pro-rich, anti-poor party. Tax the god damn rich assholes, Keir, you’ll be saving us all a lot of trouble.

26. FUND THE NHS. 

    I have been waiting for a serious operation, little support for mental health, PIP denied. I *want* to work but I need to be cured first please. Jfc. 

27. I don’t think they actually understand what they’re doing. A lot of people have been denied PIP who clearly were meant to be given it (as far as the will of voters/parliamentary vote/website criteria was concerned). I was given ‘0’ in every category when I was literally housebound, close to bedbound. I was *too ill* to appeal it. My case and many others were cheated by design, to save money while being able to pretend vulnerable people were being looked after when they weren’t.

    Like many disabled people who cannot work no matter what ‘incentives’ are concerned, I am ‘LCWRA (Limited Capability for Work and Work-Related Activity)’ and that, put simply, contains the money I need to buy food to remain alive.

    I know the temptation some have is to budget on others behalf and question why I’m spending £3,600 a month on candles, or whatever. OK, let’s say for the sake of argument I can’t count, or I’m acting in bad faith. Do you think that said idiots, or bad actors, will just suffer and starve in silence, without en masse flooding other overloaded services, including obviously the NHS? This was the fallacy of austerity in the first place – ‘protect’ NHS spending while cutting so many other things that NHS patients rely on. There are opinions on how people should respond to adversity, and *then there’s what they actually do.*

28. On the council estate where I am, everyone is everyone else’s ‘carer’

    It’s a known scam and they’re all playing the system, will happily admit it.

    How can someone who requires a carer be a carer for someone else? It’s bollocks.

    Lad bragging he gets 800 quid a month for fuck all and there’s nothing wrong with him (his words)

    Everyone in the comments saying the system isn’t broken needs to take a trip down to their local estate

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