Snag clothing gets 100 complaints a day that models are too fat, says boss

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1. True being a beached whale is just as unhealthy if not
   more than being underweight

2. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say, if you’re obese you shouldn’t accepting of that. It’s not ok. I’m overweight myself and I’m not going to accept it.

3. Obese people need clothes and want to know how it looks before buying.

4. Probably less complains than many brands get for models being too thin.

5. Anorexia is a far smaller societal problem than obesity.

   In the UK calories are listed on everything, healthy food options are plentiful and gyms are everywhere. We need to stop pandering to people’s laziness. Societal pressure to be a healthy weight is a good thing.

6. I don’t see a problem with models of all different body types. No one is claiming the woman in the picture is attractive or being encouraged to look like her. People of a similar body type need to know how their clothes will fit.

7. Body shaming is politically incorrect, but you should feel shame if you look like the model in this thumbnail. If you look like that, you are effectively tanking your own life expectancy and causing inconvenience to the people around you.

   In my experience with obese people they will have no issue making fun of skinny people but it’s immoral and inhumane to call them the ‘f’ word.. and also, thanks for turning commonly used parlance and medical terminologies like ‘fat’ and ‘obese’ into dirty words.

   They will whine about being fat on a daily basis but be offended if YOU call them fat. They will blame being fat for all their miseries in life but continue to eat when when they’re sad, eat when they’re happy, eat when they’re hungry, eat because why not, eat breakfast, eat lunch, eat dinner, eat because they feel like a binge and eat because they feel like a snack, while doing little to no exercise.

   They snore loudly and they sweat profusely, but they won’t recognise or acknowledge that people can’t sleep around them or that they smell terrible.

   Encounter them in a corridor and they expect YOU to move, because you obviously can’t both fit in a space that’s designed to be wide enough for people to pass each other. They expect bigger chairs and benches from society and they expect employers to accommodate them in doing less work than everyone else.

   I used to, but after my experiences with a bunch of absolute cunts, I no longer have any sympathy for fat people.

8. I’ve lost 38kg over the last 2 years with a few more to go, if you want to be fat fine but don’t expect the world to respect you when you don’t respect yourself.

   If you want to lose weight I recommend Ultra Processed People as a good read. Eat real food and avoid ultra processed food as much as possible. Simple.

9. >But Snag founder Ms Read says: “Shaming fat people does not help them to lose weight and actually it really impacts mental health and therefore their physical health.”
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   >She thinks the idea of banning adverts showing models with bigger bodies is a symptom of society’s “fat phobia”.

   So banning adverts of thin models is good because it stops people aspiring to be thin and is not labeled thin-fobia. But banning ads with fat people is fat-fobia – not the normalising of being at a critically obese and unhealthy weight?

   In no way should people be encouraged towards staying at a larger weight – that is to say, higher fat percentage. If that means not applauding, grand standing and main eventing obese people by using them in ads, as models etc. so be it.

   It is fact that overweight and obese people are an unnecessary drain on medical resource and have a lower quality of life. Doctors should not fear complaints because they have said a patient needs to lose weight. People should not be ashamed for thinking obesity is disgusting.

   Fat body positivity is a mask purely to guard fat and obese people from their own lack of self discipline. And their mental health crisis’ from being shamed is a reflection of their own inner thoughts. They’re just too unwilling to do the hard work themselves.

   Edit: Spelling

10. They probably get more complaints about how expensive and shit their tights are now, than fat people to be honest.

    They purposefully went this direction with the models for marketing purposes, let’s be honest here. If they choose models in between the weight range, they would have gotten no hate marketing, that provides traction on social media.

    They could have done what other brands have done and kept the bigger models on the website, but they purposefully chose to go in this direction, for the hate transaction of likes and comments.

    That’s what pisses me off about this whole thing, they didn’t do it under the guise of “every body is beautiful and needs quality tights”, it’s so clearly set up to manufacture rage bait comments towards the models that are probably being paid fuck all and have to see these comments. With no support.

11. Clothing models should represent different body types and shapes within ordinary range. This means it’s okay for some models to be on the skinny side, and for others to be in that obese category as far as BMI is concerned.

    However, there is a limit. Being severely, morbidly overweight or severely underweight is a dangerous health problem. It should not be normalised in the media. If you have a severe weight problem you should not be looking for representation, you should be looking for help. It’s morally wrong to pander to it.

12. Former morbidly obese person here.

    People are overweight because they put too much food in their mouths. We shouldn’t be glorifying that at all.

    With very few exceptions aside, if you’re fat, it’s because you eat too many calories.

    Smoking and being morbidly obese are both choices. Except for some reason the fatties avoid accountability

13. I doubt they get 100 negative comments per day.

    Seems like self promotion to me.

14. Don’t people have more important things to do with their lives? They’re not hurting anyone! It’s their lives after all.

    Have to say they’re some of the best clothes I’ve brought and that’s before and after my weight loss journey. Their tights actually stay up and don’t rip.

15. Snag shoots a lot of the fat models in a way that boarders on fetish material, making them look as big and fleshy as possible.  It sells a bdsm harness and see through clothing on the same website as colourful tights aimed at the every day person.  It has a NSFW Facebook group showing people, mostly men, wearing their tights and sends snotty responses to anyone who thinks it is inappropriate or just wants a women only page.  It sold patches that said ‘ choke me!’, and when people questioned this on FB it accused them of being prudes and said to choke a partner is a normal and safe sexual activity.  It sometimes uses male models and gets snotty on FB when women want an actual women to advertise the product.  The quality has gone down and price has gone up.  The jeans they male look shite on anyone of any size…

    But all the complaints are only about people being fat.  Sure, whatever you say Snag.

16. I work in public health and have occasional chats about this with the doctors on lunch. All of the senior consultants agree that the “body positivity” movement is extremely harmful, both to the individual and to wider society.

    Obesity is a disease that needs to be treated, not a part of your identity. It is not something to be celebrated, which seems to be an idea that so many of these fashion brands pander to.

    Fashion brands like snag don’t care about people with obesity, they see them as an opportunity to make money. They certainly don’t care about the long-term costs to the NHS that come from keeping fat people happy in their skin. Increased risk of cardiovascular diseases obviously. Greater chance of developing cancer of all types. Greater risk of dying from respiratory infections. The list goes on.

    Body positivity adverts are no different to smoking adverts, or gambling adverts; in terms of the societal and personal harm they cause. Obesity is a public health emergency, especially here in south Wales.

    To be clear, myself and the clinicians I work with agree that shaming fat people is unequivocally the wrong approach to take. It won’t change people’s lifestyle choices and habits. You want to use the carrot to encourage people, not the stick to beat them down. But a good start would be to stop publicly promoting people with obesity, in fashion and in other arenas.

    We also say the same thing about the other extreme too. The fashion brands that used to parade an ultra-thin Kate Moss back in the day were also culpable in promoting extremely harmful lifestyles. Anorexia is a disease just as much as obesity.

17. According to the GOV website, 64% of UK adults are either overweight or obese. It’s already normalised.

    Obesity costs the NHS around £6.5 billion a year and is the second biggest preventable cause of cancer.

    Eating disorders costs the UK around £9.4 billion a year.

    Something has got to give. We need to be promoting healthy lifestyles, regular exercise, access to gyms and pools needs to be cheaper, healthy food needs to be cheaper than ready meals and junk food in the supermarkets, cooking from scratch needs to be retaught in schools and encouraged in adults also.

18. Fat lasses need clothes too! Tights are a bugger, you need to at least know they’re not going to stretch and show everything… which people would complain about too

19. That’s a stupid thing to complain about.

    Regardless, I kinda feel like tha majority of models should probably represent the average size of women in the UK.

20. Honestly it’s true . There’s nothing wrong with overweight models ; but now every other model you see advertising clothes is seriously overweight. It’s like these companies think makes them look inclusive or some shit. It’s time we stopped normalising obesity.

21. Fat people still need clothes and it’s helpful to have an idea of how the clothes will look.

22. I forget which programme I caught a bit of, but it was something a about a group of women looking for love. One of them was clearly obese and the man was very honest in saying he didn’t find someone that large attractive. He also pointed out the things he didn’t like about others too, because he was asked! The very large woman stood up and said she beautiful as she was, which is half the problem.

    We’ve spent the last however many years having adverts and social media telling people that being very fat is ok and not that it’s unhealthy. Vanity sizing has disguised the issue even more.

23. Id say too much make up is more of an issue than the shape of the model. I know I should be looking at the clothes, but it puts me off somewhat.

24. But she is too fat, and they should be incentivising slimmer healthier sized models for general health and not normalising obesity. It’s your own fault if you’re obese.

25. Talking about obesity on Reddit is exhausting and pointless.

26. Why does it have to be so fucking extreme!? Just put a _normal_ weighted person in your clothes and model them FFS. Not someone who is clinically underweight for their age, and not someone morbidly obese. Just maybe someone like Dianne and Keith who eat well, and healthy hit have the occasional kebab at the weekend and a few pints during the week but take care of their dental hygiene. It’s not hard!

27. People are dumb. The fat models om these ads don’t make people want to be fat. People just love hating fat people and use that as an excuse to, yet again, pretend to be concerns while shitting on fat people.

    Guess what? Being fat isn’t popular!!! It never has been and having fat models won’t make it popular. Ffs. People really need to learnt to just stfu and let people live.

28. We should be advertising fashion with skinny folk to slightly overweight folk with no photoshop edits. You know, to how most of the population look like.

    We should not be doing it with either anorexic/severely underweight people or morbidly obese people. Advertising both ends of the spectrum is bad, trying to normalise both things is bad because of how much it kills your health.

29. Obesity is probably near the top of societal health crisis, but it seems to be becoming more and more normalised every day. I’m not surprised some people might lash out at a world they see going insane

30. And once again I see a severe misunderstanding of body positivity, it’s not ‘encouraging obesity’ it’s ‘people shouldn’t feel shame for how they look and shouldn’t be treated like shit for it’ also encouraging people to feel good about themselves makes them feel better mentally and much more likely to make better health decisions and shaming people for their bodies doesn’t help and this applies to people of all sizes btw.

    Also sorry fat people need clothes, getting rid of plus sized models won’t suddenly make us fat people disappear.

    Edit: I also remember a few years ago Nike getting shit for having a plus sized range and having a plus sized mannequin, like ok you want us to loose weight and you’re mad a company is making workout clothing that fits us so we can work out comfortably? Make it make sense.

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