Can we do a sweepstake on the loveable, “wouldn’t hurt a fly”, breed that did this?
And again it seems the owners aren’t charged with anything. If a dog kills someone then owners should be charged with manslaughter, it’s as simple as that. IDGAF if it’s there own child. If the kid died any other similar way they would be charged with Causing Or Allowing the death. So why not that at the very least.
I’m going to link to this story whenever people complain that rescues won’t home dogs with unknown histories to families with young children.
I’m going to presume this wasn’t a puppy and would like to say, if you’re getting an adult dog of *any* breed you should *never ever under any circumstances* leave them alone with your child.
Resellers lie, we paid £200 for a 1year old Rottweiler who we soon discovered had never been walked in his life. He is a lead -only dog now through no fault of his own.
Nice to see my little hometown in the headlines. Just a shame it’s never for anything positive
Apparently the police are investigating if this dog was on the banned list. I thought the law had changed and that any dog could be labelled as a dangerous dog ?
It had previous owners, meaning that this is yet another child nannied to death by a shelter pitbull that should have been put down instead of passed around the community.
Why the fuck, was a dog only owed for a week, left in a position where it could harm a 17 month old child. At the end of the day, you CANNOT know 100% any animal will always be safe. They are animals. You sure as fuck cannot know it after a week. 8m.less worried about the type of dog, and far more concerned about whoever allowed them together like this (I’m assuming unsupervised).
Another tragic death that almost certainly could have been avoided. Well, this has been the case in the other incidents that I can rememeber.
Now please excuse me whilst I have a rant…
Never, ever, for any reason at all, even for a moment, leave any dog of any size or temperament alone with a small child. Period. End of discussion. There is no debate to be had. Don’t.
Accidents are a thing. Predatory drift is a thing. Poor training (the dog may not be yours) is a thing. Kids being clueless/arseholes is also a thing.
They are either separated by secure barriers (e.g. closed doors, locked gates that the dog cannot jump) or there is an adult/older-teen with the child who can exert total control over either one.
Also, if you have a small child and unless you *really* know what you are doing; **do not** get a new dog to go with it. Wait until the child is old enough to be reasoned with and even then, the above rules apply. **ALL THE TIME**
/rant
Disclaimer: We have two large dogs. They are actually pretty good with kids (the mongrel is much better than the Husky) but they are watched like hawks when with kids and we are not slow to tell our dogs off, or other people’s kids.
They should reintroduce the dog license.
Make people apply to buy a dog, with certain dogs being unable to be around children.
1. Don’t leave any dog or animal near a baby/ young child
2. Don’t own pitbulls or direct relatives of pitbulls, they are a danger to you and your community
Such a sad outcome for that little girl and her family.
I love dogs. Had a springer spaniel for nearly 16 years growing up and got a rescue dog last year. She is very gentle, sweet and loves her walks. But even then, if I see a child approach her I always keep her separated and tell the parent/guardian that she’s a rescue dog and hasn’t really been around children. I’d also be a bit nervous getting a dog that’s had previous owners (which sounds like this dog did) with a young child. Indeed, the charity I got my dog from won’t re-home with children under 5.
That said, I would never leave her (or any dog for that matter) unattended with an infant child. They are animals at the end of the day so you can never 100% predict how they will react to things. Children of that age can be loud, noisy, disruptive etc which can make the dog agitated and lash out.
So I’ll take some downvotes if need be for this opinion. This is a tragedy that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Never leave your children alone with any dog, regardless of age or breed for any reason – it’s utterly unsafe. Also don’t judge an animal based on its breed, I believe jack Russell’s are at the top of the attack list in the UK (last I checked). Simply don’t own a dog if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Wonder what breed it was? King Charles? Golden Retriever maybe? Oh wait…
Can’t wait to see the report that says the parents left the 17 month old alone with the bully breed.
Bet the chavvy parents that wanted a hard-looking dog are pleased with themselves now ay?
I have a two-year-old Doodle who’s never shown any sign of aggression, not even once, and there’s no way I’d leave her unsupervised with a 17-month-old. What on earth were these people thinking. Poor child.
The number of pit enablers in this thread is depressing
The parents should be arrested this is 100% thier fault.
We can all picture what the owner of the dog looks like and their background.
I have a 6 month old right next to me now and I’ll tell you I’d honest to god kill myself right then and there if this happened to us. I can not even imagine what they are going through.
I have a 15 year old cocker spaniel, she was born into my very own hands 15 years ago, has been with me thick and thin for all these years and I wouldn’t leave her alone with my baby for a second. A dog is a dog and you just can not forget that
A lot of a assumptions that the child was “left alone”. In my head it could take seconds for a dog to turn and fatally injure a child. Seconds. Even if you are in the same room as child and dog it could happen to quickly to stop it unless you maintain 100% control of the dog.
Presumably there hadn’t been a problem in the week it had been in the home so this had stopped happening. What a sad story.
This was reported in my local news, no where near St Helens. Facebook comments were filled with “Such a sad loss for both the girl and the dog”…
Horrific story. And an unfortunate reminder of why you absolutely can never leave a dog with a child unattended.
Why would you rehome ANY dog when you’ve got an 18 month old child? Even a chichua could harm a child.
What a waste and a tragedy.
I’m a dog owner btw. Unless you’ve raised one from a pup you or had it years you don’t really know with certainty what a dog is capable of if it feels threatened or annoyed.
You seriously need to reassess your ability to critically think if you consider it a good idea to get a pit bull type dog if you have a young child.
A local guy to me trains his bully type dogs at the local park. They are solid muscle and built like waist height bulls. They are huge and can jump over a 2m fence with ease.
If one of them attacked a grown man, let alone a child the result would likely be death. You may as well own a Lion and I don’t say that with any sense of exaggeration.
This is exactly what happens when you buy a bully breed from God fucking knows where with no health and behaviour history.
While it’s hard to say this, most people that attack Bully breeds are absolutely right. Why are bully breed known for this type of behaviour? Because they’re one of the most often dog breeds that are bred by backyard breeders. They just breed them for profit and not care about their genes, health or behaviour.
Please, people, stop buying from stupid breeders. You want a bully breed? Fine, no problem with that. But GO TO A TRUSTED BREEDER FOR A PUPPY. You need your puppy to come from parents with health and behaviour history.
Bully breeds, properly bred, are the same as any other breeds in terms of behaviour. Just don’t get a working dog and keep them inside.
But yes, bully breeds are known for bad behaviour history because they’re one of the most common breeds that are backyard bred. That results, unfortunately, in tragedies like this.
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Can we do a sweepstake on the loveable, “wouldn’t hurt a fly”, breed that did this?
And again it seems the owners aren’t charged with anything. If a dog kills someone then owners should be charged with manslaughter, it’s as simple as that. IDGAF if it’s there own child. If the kid died any other similar way they would be charged with Causing Or Allowing the death. So why not that at the very least.
I’m going to link to this story whenever people complain that rescues won’t home dogs with unknown histories to families with young children.
I’m going to presume this wasn’t a puppy and would like to say, if you’re getting an adult dog of *any* breed you should *never ever under any circumstances* leave them alone with your child.
Resellers lie, we paid £200 for a 1year old Rottweiler who we soon discovered had never been walked in his life. He is a lead -only dog now through no fault of his own.
Nice to see my little hometown in the headlines. Just a shame it’s never for anything positive
Apparently the police are investigating if this dog was on the banned list. I thought the law had changed and that any dog could be labelled as a dangerous dog ?
It had previous owners, meaning that this is yet another child nannied to death by a shelter pitbull that should have been put down instead of passed around the community.
Why the fuck, was a dog only owed for a week, left in a position where it could harm a 17 month old child. At the end of the day, you CANNOT know 100% any animal will always be safe. They are animals. You sure as fuck cannot know it after a week. 8m.less worried about the type of dog, and far more concerned about whoever allowed them together like this (I’m assuming unsupervised).
Another tragic death that almost certainly could have been avoided. Well, this has been the case in the other incidents that I can rememeber.
Now please excuse me whilst I have a rant…
Never, ever, for any reason at all, even for a moment, leave any dog of any size or temperament alone with a small child. Period. End of discussion. There is no debate to be had. Don’t.
Accidents are a thing. Predatory drift is a thing. Poor training (the dog may not be yours) is a thing. Kids being clueless/arseholes is also a thing.
They are either separated by secure barriers (e.g. closed doors, locked gates that the dog cannot jump) or there is an adult/older-teen with the child who can exert total control over either one.
Also, if you have a small child and unless you *really* know what you are doing; **do not** get a new dog to go with it. Wait until the child is old enough to be reasoned with and even then, the above rules apply. **ALL THE TIME**
/rant
Disclaimer: We have two large dogs. They are actually pretty good with kids (the mongrel is much better than the Husky) but they are watched like hawks when with kids and we are not slow to tell our dogs off, or other people’s kids.
They should reintroduce the dog license.
Make people apply to buy a dog, with certain dogs being unable to be around children.
1. Don’t leave any dog or animal near a baby/ young child
2. Don’t own pitbulls or direct relatives of pitbulls, they are a danger to you and your community
Such a sad outcome for that little girl and her family.
I love dogs. Had a springer spaniel for nearly 16 years growing up and got a rescue dog last year. She is very gentle, sweet and loves her walks. But even then, if I see a child approach her I always keep her separated and tell the parent/guardian that she’s a rescue dog and hasn’t really been around children. I’d also be a bit nervous getting a dog that’s had previous owners (which sounds like this dog did) with a young child. Indeed, the charity I got my dog from won’t re-home with children under 5.
That said, I would never leave her (or any dog for that matter) unattended with an infant child. They are animals at the end of the day so you can never 100% predict how they will react to things. Children of that age can be loud, noisy, disruptive etc which can make the dog agitated and lash out.
So I’ll take some downvotes if need be for this opinion. This is a tragedy that I wouldn’t wish on anyone. Never leave your children alone with any dog, regardless of age or breed for any reason – it’s utterly unsafe. Also don’t judge an animal based on its breed, I believe jack Russell’s are at the top of the attack list in the UK (last I checked). Simply don’t own a dog if you don’t know what you’re doing.
Wonder what breed it was? King Charles? Golden Retriever maybe? Oh wait…
Can’t wait to see the report that says the parents left the 17 month old alone with the bully breed.
Bet the chavvy parents that wanted a hard-looking dog are pleased with themselves now ay?
I have a two-year-old Doodle who’s never shown any sign of aggression, not even once, and there’s no way I’d leave her unsupervised with a 17-month-old. What on earth were these people thinking. Poor child.
The number of pit enablers in this thread is depressing
The parents should be arrested this is 100% thier fault.
We can all picture what the owner of the dog looks like and their background.
I have a 6 month old right next to me now and I’ll tell you I’d honest to god kill myself right then and there if this happened to us. I can not even imagine what they are going through.
I have a 15 year old cocker spaniel, she was born into my very own hands 15 years ago, has been with me thick and thin for all these years and I wouldn’t leave her alone with my baby for a second. A dog is a dog and you just can not forget that
A lot of a assumptions that the child was “left alone”. In my head it could take seconds for a dog to turn and fatally injure a child. Seconds. Even if you are in the same room as child and dog it could happen to quickly to stop it unless you maintain 100% control of the dog.
Presumably there hadn’t been a problem in the week it had been in the home so this had stopped happening. What a sad story.
This was reported in my local news, no where near St Helens. Facebook comments were filled with “Such a sad loss for both the girl and the dog”…
Horrific story. And an unfortunate reminder of why you absolutely can never leave a dog with a child unattended.
Why would you rehome ANY dog when you’ve got an 18 month old child? Even a chichua could harm a child.
What a waste and a tragedy.
I’m a dog owner btw. Unless you’ve raised one from a pup you or had it years you don’t really know with certainty what a dog is capable of if it feels threatened or annoyed.
You seriously need to reassess your ability to critically think if you consider it a good idea to get a pit bull type dog if you have a young child.
A local guy to me trains his bully type dogs at the local park. They are solid muscle and built like waist height bulls. They are huge and can jump over a 2m fence with ease.
If one of them attacked a grown man, let alone a child the result would likely be death. You may as well own a Lion and I don’t say that with any sense of exaggeration.
This is exactly what happens when you buy a bully breed from God fucking knows where with no health and behaviour history.
While it’s hard to say this, most people that attack Bully breeds are absolutely right. Why are bully breed known for this type of behaviour? Because they’re one of the most often dog breeds that are bred by backyard breeders. They just breed them for profit and not care about their genes, health or behaviour.
Please, people, stop buying from stupid breeders. You want a bully breed? Fine, no problem with that. But GO TO A TRUSTED BREEDER FOR A PUPPY. You need your puppy to come from parents with health and behaviour history.
Bully breeds, properly bred, are the same as any other breeds in terms of behaviour. Just don’t get a working dog and keep them inside.
But yes, bully breeds are known for bad behaviour history because they’re one of the most common breeds that are backyard bred. That results, unfortunately, in tragedies like this.