Canada weighing cutting F-35 jet order to buy alternatives: Carney

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-canada-weighing-cutting-f-35-jet-order-to-buy-alternatives-carney/

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  1. >Prime Minister Mark Carney said Canada is weighing trimming its F-35 purchase plans to buy an alternative aircraft that is more cost effective and could deliver additional industrial benefits to this country instead of sending more dollars to the United States.

  2. Who would want to continue paying almost double the cost for a crap that won’t be of any use when a situation arises

  3. It’s a good idea but the problem we are going to have is maintaining two different fighter aircraft at the same time. It’s not ideal and is costly.

  4. Good call, America is unhinged as fuck right now and wouldn’t want them KILLSWITCHing your birds whenever they like.

  5. Good move, hope the Aussie government cancels those subs we ordered from the colonialists as well

  6. Come to the Saab side of the force! Brazil is almost as big as Canada and we’re using Gripens to protect our borders, that plane is lit!

  7. Defense contracts with the US favor them by design. Now that they are essentially an enemy, we should either renegotiate the contracts to no longer favor them or look elsewhere for our defense needs. We can’t trust the US for defense anymore, so let’s start acting like it.

  8. Canada needs to buy Rafaels or Eurofighter Typhoons. Fuck our American junk. Trump will restrict spare parts and upgrades.

  9. Maybe let some airplane guys make a recommendation to a defense committee. Unelected finance guy should take some advise.

  10. Canada should attempt to sell their 16 production slots. Another F-35 buyer might be glad to have them.

  11. The Gripen is the best option for them, imo. 

  12. Cancel the order. Do not buy military equipment from an adversary

  13. What’s out there that’s on the same playing field?

  14. Total cancellation? Probably will not happen. But modify order? Most likely option.

  15. There is no alternative to the F35. Look at the situation in Ukraine. If you don’t have stealth, you didn’t have a plane

  16. If they buy Russian Migs, maybe Trp will start loving them again 😝

  17. This whole thing is problem. Programs like the F35 in part are possible because of buy in from so many countries. I dont think we will ever see another program like it again. US will now have to foot the bill solely for anything they develop. There is also no replacement for the F35 anywhere. So the whole cancelling and backing out of F35 will ultimately degrade Canada’s capability. The best option would be reduce the number of units and spend the rest on the Euro fighter. The other issue is that the F35 is now the poster child for decoupling from US military support however its just tip of the iceberg. As I understand it there are a whole lot of capabilities that simply dont exist outside the US military that the rest of NATO rely on exclusively. Hey at least Canada is not in Australia’s shoes and signed a 300+ billion contract for submarines that will likely never get delivered and given how the French were treated now have zero alternatives.

    Everybody losses.

  18. I think Canada needs to do what is best for Canada, but there is no other alternative to the F-35 that comes with the same capabilities or close to it at a lower price point. Unless prices have shifted drastically the Saab Gripen was coming in at $85 million while the F-35 is below $80 million per unit.

  19. We can’t buy weapons from a country that’s threatening to take us over… Especially if the country in question has the ability to make the wrong next to useless.
    If we have to contractually take some we’ve signed for, I guess sure. But we really need to pull away from US purchases.

  20. If your neighbour is threatening to alter the borders and annex you as another state, why would you be dependent on them to supply your defense weapons?????

  21. The Art of the Deal eh Trump? Sure seems to be going well, wonder what your MIC thinks about all these tariffs and threatening your erstwhile allies.

  26. Yes, absolutely do it, there is no reason to support this backstabbing and soon to be irrelevant on the global stage country.

  27. We have 16 we already paid for.

    Likely looking at the Swedes and the Gripen again as they said they’d develop it in Canada.

    While it’d be great if we could trust the yanks… we can’t for the foreseeable future. So I’d guess we cancel the remaining order, take our 16, strike a deal with the Swedes and either sell the F35s to Australia or more than likely, keep them and hope the US gets their shit together.

    If they do, a more responsible friend would realize we were under duress and won’t dick us to hard in ordering a smaller portion of our original after trumping dies…

    The Gripen will need to be re-engined but I’m sure that will be part of our discussion with them.

  28. I think it is a completely rational for Canada to not want to buy fighter jets or weaponry from a country, who’s leader persists on wanting to invade them.

    Carney is making a very good first impression on the international stage, I might add.

  29. Trump is gonna get called into a dark smokey room soon and shown footage of JFK from an angle no one has ever seen before

  32. Congress needs to ban transfers of all current and future military tech to non-NATO countries before trump just gives away to putin for a cookie.

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