DOGE Wrongly Declared Elderly Man Dead Causing Bank to Take Thousands From His Account: ‘Take It Up With Social Security’

https://www.latintimes.com/doge-wrongly-declared-elderly-man-dead-causing-bank-take-thousands-his-account-take-it-social-578611

38 comments

  2. What if someone happened to declare Elon “dead”? 🤔

  3. Why would the bank have rights to a dead person’s money?

  4. Reminds me of an old KGB joke:

    KGB: “In our record you are dead”
    Nikolai: “But I am alive”
    KGB: “No living person ever criticizes the KGB record!”

  5. I guess this is the new, improved DOGE, using a scalpel, not a chainsaw to ruin people’s lives?

  7. DOGE: You’re dead.

    Citizen: No, I’m alive.

    DOGE: Hmm. Come into this side room and talk to these US Marshalls. I’m sure they can clear up the discrepancy.

  8. Think of all the old people that require full time care. How long do you think it would take for someone to notice that DOGE messed up their records? Weeks? Months? It wouldn’t surprise me if this is fairly wide spread. Enough time hasn’t passed yet for people to notice all the issues. [DOGE used AI to scrub through records.](https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-federal-agencies-ai/) There’s no way that was more accurate than humans.

  9. Class action lawsuit against reckless Musk and Trump for non-congresional approval of new DOGE cabinet position…

    Share the wealth…

  10. Bank should be liable. Fuck that shit. They took his money.

  11. But he’s got super wiz kids working on it…the best super wiz kids, working 120 hours a week! I don’t understand. How could Elon be wrong about anything? Must be Obama’s fault.

  12. On Social Security, if someone legitimately dies before the third of the month, even if the funds have already been deposited, SSA will claw it back in a month or two. When my brother, who received SSDI, died on the second of November (years ago) the bank strongly recommended to my mom that she leave the account open and the amount of money he got from SSA every month plus $1 in the account as the government would claw it back. They did a couple of months later and the account was left with $1 in it.

    As for being declared dead, it’s incredibly easy for it to happen when you’re alive and kicking. The police, funerals home, a hospital, a crematorium, the city, state and/or federal government, State Department when overseas, and probably other agencies, can report the death of an individual to SSA. The wrong name, SSN, date of birth, or other personally identifiable information and the wrong person is listed as dead. With your SSN being your ID number for basically everything, you’re now ineligible for all government payments and services, including VA, Medicare, Medicaid, state benefits, etc., can’t get a job (because the government says you’re dead), and it can take years to get it resolved when the government is working smoothly. If it happens today you’re probably dead forever.

  13. I work in banking, specifically the department that handles federal ACH payments. When SS is made aware of someone’s death they look at their payments and determine if any were made after the recipient’s death. I’ve seen a few comments here about the bank being liable or that they do not have the right to take the funds. Per federal regulation, right to those payments end at death, so any funds made after their death is not the recipient’s funds and must be returned. The banking institution is legally required to return the funds as soon as they are made aware. And are required to send notice to the member that they MUST return the funds. They cannot delay, they cannot argue on behalf of the recipient and can be fined for not complying with the federal reclamation within a timely manner. This is on DOGE and SS for not double checking before declaring someone dead. Banking institutions have no mechanism to fight a false death notice other than to tell their member to contact the government agency to prove they didn’t die.

  17. INFO: Does that person have a cause of legal action?

    I mean, IIRC, you need the Gov’ts permission to sure the Gov’t. But is DOGE really a Gov’t agency? Or is there some major “Oopsies” at work here?

  19. Where is Congress while DOGE completely abuses power and is taking actions that they obviously don’t understand. There are American Citizens on the other end of these terrible actions and haphazard cuts.

  20. DOGE is making the US government as efficient as mid-80s Soviet Union services.

  22. Soc sec workers, please correct me if I misunderstand. It seems this surely happens (hopefully rarely) even in better times. Snafus–if this was one and not sheer new incompetence–is what the service staff are for. What’s extremely bad is the reduction in service staff, as described in the article, and their greatly-lessened ability to rectify things.

  23. Richest asshole in the world steals a couple thousand from an elderly couple and then tells him to fuck off. When are the citizens going to wake up and shut this down?

  24. I’m still wrapping my head around the idea that DOGE can even do shit like declaring someone dead.

  25. This is going to keep happening, more and more often, and people are going to start resorting to violence for remedy.

  26. Musk and his team of teens are incompetent just like the voters who put them in office.

  27. A novel legal theory, but I think it would stand up.

    A dead man cannot commit a crime. It’s impossible for a dead man to commit a murder. The law never requires impossibilities. He could murder Elon Musk and not be prosecuted

  28. Wouldn’t it be wild if we all took our money out of the banks? Wouldn’t cause any issues right?

  29. MAGA’s message to the elderly: “have you considered maybe dying so we can give this money to the oligarchs?”

  30. The buck stops somewhere over there, maybe go ask them, not my fault, hope that works out for you.

  31. God, we’re now down to the judges only to save democracy, and it’s a 50/50 shot whether the judge for any given issue is a MAGA cult appointee.

    And for matters that go up to the corrupt MAGA packed Supreme Court, the chance of a fair and honest handling drops to nearly zero.

  32. Lawyer up, that bank is confencating money without a death certificate and even if he was dead you can’t steal money. They have insurance for such thing. Get a lawyer and get your due!

  33. I am strongly surprised people aren’t dropping dead over this administration. As in the administration itself

  34. Isnt that felony theft? Over $1000 and less than $5000? Put someone in jail. Sue them into the Stone Age.

  36. Trust me, it’ll be more than one. Many of those dependent on social security are not able to keep on top of or aware of changes and mistakes like this and others that are sure to be abound.

  37. Meanwhile a congress woman was in home care with Alzheimer’s and no one noticed.

  38. This is what happens when you let script kiddies loose on a major database.

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