Under-22s to be excluded from incapacity benefits

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg8pz1g8q9o

by Aggressive_Plates

39 comments
  1. Crazy how ageism perpetuated by successive governments against young people is so normalised. Paid worse for the same work, treated like shit, fuck this country.

  2. So if you can’t work but you can’t get the benefits either, do you just die now or?

  3. What about young amputees, blind, and deaf people? These are permanent disabilities…

  4. > the money saved by stopping it will be reinvested into training for young people, the government has said.

    The idea is that if someone has that gap in education/employment between 18 and 21 it significantly damages future prospects.

    There’ll be an exemption for people with lifelong disabilities.

    It’s currently in the consultation phase and anyone is welcome to respond here (‘respond online’ at the bottom, this particular aspect is covered by question 11): https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/pathways-to-work-reforming-benefits-and-support-to-get-britain-working-green-paper

  5. They do not care one bit about the welfare of disabled people. Literally not one bit.

    Younger people are even easier to target because they don’t vote as much.

  6. Most stupid thing labour have done so far, if they don’t address the inequality and find a way to tax the wealthy then they’re done for another generation.

    Giving the next election to the cunt, farage, on a silver platter!

  7. Funny how so many people roundly rejected Corbynism and still insist he’s an anti-semite and supports Putin (admittedly after doing a woeful job at defending himself on both points in mainstream media) yet are up in arms about this.

    What the hell did people *expect* was going to happen?

  8. This is just the same as an 18 year old doing the same job as me but being paid less. As if all 18 to (is it 24) year olds are living at home and don’t need more money. 

  9. How is this not direct discrimination based on age contract to the equality act?

  10. How the fuck does this logic work? If someone is Under 22 with no family support and too disabled to work what are they supposed to do?

  11. Because the young can’t be disabled?

    I’m not a doctor but that doesn’t sound right.

  12. Did we get rid of the Tories? I’m waiting to hear Labour oppose this??

  13. My neighbour is a young lady with a learning disability and possibly some kind of autism

    She grew up in a care home. She was kicked out at 18. She was put in an hmo. She was taken advantage of. 
    Moved in with her boyfriend who abused her

    Shes now on her own with a baby /toddler. 

    She’s barely coping. She loves her kid and she’s a good mum but she doesn’t know how to do anything. She’s like a child. It’s really sad 

    This young woman and her daughter are a family on the edge. Taking £400 a month off her will probably push her over 

    It’s utterly cruel and it’s got nothing to do with saving money 

    When these cuts push families over the edge, it’s the NHS and social services that have to intervene. It costs far more to make families destitute then put their kids in care, than it does to just give them enough to live decently 

  14. Disabled but don’t claim anything, but have struggled sometimes.  This last few months have been a constant stream of anxiety for me.

    Every day has been like watching a sword of damocles wobble above my head. Something indulgent and cruel in how they have slowly kept the most vulnerable in perpetual suspense and fear over this announcement. 

    Kind of like the October budget was a catastrophic long drag. They should have just ripped the band aid off two months ago, or shut the fuk up about it until the had a plan. 

    Like they’re toying with ppl while everyone else gives their two cents. 

    Pretty cruel overall

  15. This is contrary to reforming the system of assessments… this is just declaring that people 18-22 cannot be disabled, right? That’s not what the system needs.

  16. I’m not sure a single person here has read the Green paper with this proposal?

    Labour are proposing an exemption for individuals who are too incapicated to work. Reeves is right that being out of work in your early years (if you can work) is heavily linked to long term unemployment and a lack of wage growth.

    Instead of dismissing it is yet another non-issue, i’d beg that individuals in this country start engaging with necessary reform. It seems like a good starting point would be to ensure that those exemptions are wide enough to ensure the most vulnerable members of our society are protected.

  17. So we going to send young British people to Ukraine many will become disabled and when they come home and if they are under 22 they will be told to get back to work despite their disability ok…..

  18. Is Labour trying to lose the youth vote to the Greens and Lib Dems?

  19. how do you break the entitled cycle, no please, no thank you, no civility.

    more old and sick claiming benefits than workers paying taxes

    why work when better off on benefits

  20. Are Labour trying to force the younger generation of voters to different parties? No incapacity benefits before 22, impossible to access disability benefits, not entitled to the NLW til 21, Unlivable jobseekers payments. There are 1.56 million unemployed people in the UK, and over 3 million on benefits, the population is rising and Labour are kicking as many people off government support as possible, and there are at most a million vacant jobs. What are people supposed to do?

    There’s about to be an entire generation of jobless under 22’s with no support.

  21. Do they think everyone under 22 in a wheelchair is going to wake up tomorrow, jump out of bed, and perform Lord of the Dance? I’m not sure how they felt this would be well received in any capacity.

  22. I got disabled at 23, now 26. Worked through it for 2 years and I’ve had to leave work last December. This government clearly just wants young disabled people to die, they’re absolutely ripping up any alternative options.

    I wonder when they’ll offer me the prospect of assisted death, it’s probably cheaper than keeping me alive, employers will not touch me with a bone disease and chronic pain causing back fracture.

  23. I’m sure the few million recouped by discriminating against young disabled people and forcing some into poverty is a much better option than say, getting tens of millions or possibly billions by actually taxing big multinational companies that pay fuck all in corporation tax due to loopholes.

  24. i think the messaging is clear that the govt are tired of picking up the tab. Not saying that outlook is right or wrong. It could be that they want to maximise the number of people who could be working in the short term and then start to evaluate genuine cases later. The way they may see it is that the current system cannot continue on ‘as is’.

  25. And they expect the younger generations to die in their wars. No chance mate.

  26. Well, I wasn’t allowed to have depression until I turned 18 so it makes sense. Bit like when a young person has a heart attack or stroke. Nope can’t be must be drugs.

  27. You’re young. There’s still a chance that the legs you lost were baby legs and you’ll grow some adult ones. Like teeth.

  28. Why haven’t young people considered *just* *not being disabled*? Are they stupid?

  29. Why not get rid of state pensions for the wealthy? They are by far the biggest drain of the welfare budget. 

  30. The world seems to be going in a strange direction, isn’t it? Seems the idea of empathy being a sin being pushed in the States has found its way here in one form or another.

    No ideas by the powers that be, no great trees planted will be planted where our progeny might rest under their shade. Just a callous pulling up of the drawbridge and an expectation that, yet again, the younger generations must put up with it.

    What strange and cruel times we have been pushed into.

  31. So I’m going to have to continue to financially support my kid until they are 22 instead of 18, even though I’ll be losing half my income because they’ll be an adult.

    Fantastic.

  32. I didn’t think anyone could punch down harder than the last lot.

  33. Good job you can’t be disabled until you turn 22. Or this would be dumb AF

  34. Ah yes because as we all know anyone 21 and below is immune to any all of conditions

  35. This is utterly ridiculous, and potentially very dangerous in some cases.

  36. We’re saving pennies on this whilst the wealthy continue to siphon billions out of our economy, absolute fucking shambles.

  37. But let’s not touch the triple lock pension right?
    My disdain for boomers and politicians who continually hand over the country’s future them on a silver platter grows stronger with every waking second.

  38. I was reading a year or so ago about the rise of the far right, particularly among young people in the west but the UK being an outlier.

    It’s still trending that way a little bit, but not nearly as fast and one of the reasons given was the almost fanatical zeal in which the government (which at the time had been conservative for a long time) went after young people.

    Not just the government though, every time a radio show has this topic on you’ll get people frothing at the mouth with pure venom talking about how lazy the kids are, like just absolutely rattled to the core.

    I don’t know why as a society we’re like this? You’re meant to respect the old, but the old are meant to be nurturing shepherds of the younger generation, in this country it’s like we can’t wait to strangle them in the crib.

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