We need a better system. These private insurance companies and their predatory bullshit need to go…
Super 👍 die Kranken sollen nicht zum Arzt gehen, sondern leiden
🎶Fucking the middle class in the ass,
this government preferred passtime,
In bed with special interests and banks,
They only care about their rich friends🎶
Would that not be subject to a referendum ?
>__The chronically ill and elderly are severely affected:__ Visits to the doctor and medication are not luxury items that you can afford when you need them. Those who choose a low deductible are often chronically ill. Older people also need to see doctors more often. They are therefore particularly affected by the increase, even though they are often those with small budgets.
…
>Conversely, an increase in the deductible could even lead to higher general costs, as people fall into poverty or get into debt.
I have a rare genetical chronic illness myself, which is only covered by basic care if you find out before you turn 21.
I was 30 when we diagnosed it with a genetic test. But I now earn enough to cover it well. Depending on the year, it costs between 5,000 and 38,000, depending on the recurring tests/medis (shortage), etc.
Here again the wrong approach is being taken.
There is no national prevention concept for progressive diseases, it’s just treating the condition now and that’s it, which I think is a shame.
You are directly excluded from supplementary insurance anyway, no chance as a chronically ill person.
Increasing the Franchise is the wrongest thing they could do.
Just shitting on the chronically ill.
Good job.
Reform the system.
Health has nothing to do with “Eigenverantwortung”
Nobody can choose to not get sick.
Well, they can’t make the packaging smaller to fake low inflation numbers… Or can they 🤔
this 1.2 billion in savings, is that the extra amount the public will pay for care, thise people paying 200 more? Seems unlikely. Will it be that fewer people go for medical treatment? Is that saving money? Maybe they jjst wait till the problem is worse and cannot be ignored. Then it will cost the health care system more to treat. For what it is worth i take the 2500 level.
Wo bleibt hier der Anreiz für die Leistungserbringer und Medizinalindustrie zu sparen? 🙂 Natürlich nur rhetorisch.
Gegen steigende Gesundheitskosten hilft das gar nichts. Betreffende Personen werden nach ausschöpfen der Jahresfranchise nun erst recht noch mehr Leistungen beziehen.
So anyone who was already wondering whether they could afford a visit to their family doctor will now have to come up with an extra 200 francs before their insurance finally kicks in…
No matter how this is being spun, this is a tax on the chronically ill and poor – it doesn’t save us money, it just shifts the problem to next year as early diagnosis and treatment will be increasingly avoided
This will also have a net negative impact on the swiss healthcare industry as we will absolutely have an increase in chronically sick people because people will avoid going to the Hausarzt early to get that lump looked at… treating late stage cancer costs a lot more than identifying it early. Healthcare should not be profit driven, Swiss society benefits by having a healthy population.
We will 100% pay for it anyway, this is how insurance works. But at least short-term profits will stay inflated and that will executive bonuses fat and keeps investor money safe as they profit from our illness.
But it’s nice to balance the budget today… our kids can pay for the rising chronic illness layer thorough their insurance premiums
Yeah, and each year prices go up…
I can’t find the words right now. Due to my illness, I’ve had the minimum franchise for years.
At the end of the year, it still adds up to a large sum because I have to visit a specialist at least twice a month, plus the medications I’m getting.
I haven’t been to the dentist for years because, with all the other costs like taxes, food, electricity, etc., I just can’t afford it. And now it’s supposed to get even more expensive?
The worst part was last summer when I couldn’t buy blueberries for my son because it was just too expensive. It felt like a low point.
Sounds like a referendum.
I want 100k maximum deductible please
So the savings will be 1.2 billion. Basically nothing, just to send a fuck you to the poor and the ill.
Time to vote for the Einheitskrankenkasse/caisse unique again, this time it should definitely pass
Can someone honestly explain to me what the business idea of insurances is? It seems to me that all they do is being in possesion of a bank account and deciding who pays when and who can take money out od the account. Like why do they need any workers for this? Or marketing? And why does not the government manage this bank accoubt since its so low effort?
This will be nuked out of existence in the inevitable referendum. Look forward also for the inevitable UDC and PLR campaign in favour of this increase.
It’s almost as if…public healthcare shouldn’t be a private enterprise.
If the healthcare costs were to be thought of as taxes you’d see that the poor end up paying an even larger percentage of tax compared to their rich compatriots. And god forbid if the poor decide to have kids.
But the moment you talk about a publicly funded healthcare, pro bono lawyers for the rich or the rich start storming the forums with “this is stealing”, “it will make Switzerland less attractive and what not”.
The only way to go forward is to ditch the SVP suckers, FDP free market fundamentalists and vote for a system where rich pay their fair share(also looking at cantons like Zug) otherwise the middle class will soon become the lower class and the poor will become pennyless peasants.
Finally! After all these years we found a solution to the increasing cost of healthcare. This will definitely fix our problems!
Einheitskrankenkasse pls and thanks. Or just finally have universal healthcare covered by taxes.
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It’s an utter disgrace.
We need a better system. These private insurance companies and their predatory bullshit need to go…
Super 👍 die Kranken sollen nicht zum Arzt gehen, sondern leiden
🎶Fucking the middle class in the ass,
this government preferred passtime,
In bed with special interests and banks,
They only care about their rich friends🎶
Would that not be subject to a referendum ?
>__The chronically ill and elderly are severely affected:__ Visits to the doctor and medication are not luxury items that you can afford when you need them. Those who choose a low deductible are often chronically ill. Older people also need to see doctors more often. They are therefore particularly affected by the increase, even though they are often those with small budgets.
…
>Conversely, an increase in the deductible could even lead to higher general costs, as people fall into poverty or get into debt.
I have a rare genetical chronic illness myself, which is only covered by basic care if you find out before you turn 21.
I was 30 when we diagnosed it with a genetic test. But I now earn enough to cover it well. Depending on the year, it costs between 5,000 and 38,000, depending on the recurring tests/medis (shortage), etc.
Here again the wrong approach is being taken.
There is no national prevention concept for progressive diseases, it’s just treating the condition now and that’s it, which I think is a shame.
You are directly excluded from supplementary insurance anyway, no chance as a chronically ill person.
Increasing the Franchise is the wrongest thing they could do.
Just shitting on the chronically ill.
Good job.
Reform the system.
Health has nothing to do with “Eigenverantwortung”
Nobody can choose to not get sick.
Well, they can’t make the packaging smaller to fake low inflation numbers… Or can they 🤔
this 1.2 billion in savings, is that the extra amount the public will pay for care, thise people paying 200 more? Seems unlikely. Will it be that fewer people go for medical treatment? Is that saving money? Maybe they jjst wait till the problem is worse and cannot be ignored. Then it will cost the health care system more to treat. For what it is worth i take the 2500 level.
[In French](https://www.letemps.ch/suisse/la-franchise-minimale-de-primes-maladie-va-augmenter) – [In Italian](https://www.rsi.ch/info/svizzera/300-franchi-non-bastano-la-franchigia-minima-salir%C3%A0–2685125.html)
Wo bleibt hier der Anreiz für die Leistungserbringer und Medizinalindustrie zu sparen? 🙂 Natürlich nur rhetorisch.
Gegen steigende Gesundheitskosten hilft das gar nichts. Betreffende Personen werden nach ausschöpfen der Jahresfranchise nun erst recht noch mehr Leistungen beziehen.
So anyone who was already wondering whether they could afford a visit to their family doctor will now have to come up with an extra 200 francs before their insurance finally kicks in…
No matter how this is being spun, this is a tax on the chronically ill and poor – it doesn’t save us money, it just shifts the problem to next year as early diagnosis and treatment will be increasingly avoided
This will also have a net negative impact on the swiss healthcare industry as we will absolutely have an increase in chronically sick people because people will avoid going to the Hausarzt early to get that lump looked at… treating late stage cancer costs a lot more than identifying it early. Healthcare should not be profit driven, Swiss society benefits by having a healthy population.
We will 100% pay for it anyway, this is how insurance works. But at least short-term profits will stay inflated and that will executive bonuses fat and keeps investor money safe as they profit from our illness.
But it’s nice to balance the budget today… our kids can pay for the rising chronic illness layer thorough their insurance premiums
Yeah, and each year prices go up…
I can’t find the words right now. Due to my illness, I’ve had the minimum franchise for years.
At the end of the year, it still adds up to a large sum because I have to visit a specialist at least twice a month, plus the medications I’m getting.
I haven’t been to the dentist for years because, with all the other costs like taxes, food, electricity, etc., I just can’t afford it. And now it’s supposed to get even more expensive?
The worst part was last summer when I couldn’t buy blueberries for my son because it was just too expensive. It felt like a low point.
Sounds like a referendum.
I want 100k maximum deductible please
So the savings will be 1.2 billion. Basically nothing, just to send a fuck you to the poor and the ill.
Time to vote for the Einheitskrankenkasse/caisse unique again, this time it should definitely pass
Can someone honestly explain to me what the business idea of insurances is? It seems to me that all they do is being in possesion of a bank account and deciding who pays when and who can take money out od the account. Like why do they need any workers for this? Or marketing? And why does not the government manage this bank accoubt since its so low effort?
This will be nuked out of existence in the inevitable referendum. Look forward also for the inevitable UDC and PLR campaign in favour of this increase.
It’s almost as if…public healthcare shouldn’t be a private enterprise.
If the healthcare costs were to be thought of as taxes you’d see that the poor end up paying an even larger percentage of tax compared to their rich compatriots. And god forbid if the poor decide to have kids.
But the moment you talk about a publicly funded healthcare, pro bono lawyers for the rich or the rich start storming the forums with “this is stealing”, “it will make Switzerland less attractive and what not”.
The only way to go forward is to ditch the SVP suckers, FDP free market fundamentalists and vote for a system where rich pay their fair share(also looking at cantons like Zug) otherwise the middle class will soon become the lower class and the poor will become pennyless peasants.
Finally! After all these years we found a solution to the increasing cost of healthcare. This will definitely fix our problems!
Einheitskrankenkasse pls and thanks. Or just finally have universal healthcare covered by taxes.
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