Dept. of Ed Dismantled by Executive Order—Ironically, Red States Benefited More from Its Funding
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Dept. of Ed Dismantled by Executive Order—Ironically, Red States Benefited More from Its Funding
Posted by FullmetalBiochemist
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If red states could read, they’d be devastated.
The graph really doesn’t do a good job of making its point. The extreme values at the top and bottom are both red, and its difficult to judge by eye whether the top or bottom groups skew red or blue.
Also, the labelling of the axis is not clear. Percent difference in what? Per capita funding, maybe? Relative to the mean or median?
Unfortunately this did not increase my support for the DoE. Why is the most money going to Alaska? A state that gives its citizens a Permanent Fund Dividend. If they can give every citizen $3K a year, they can fund their own education.
This chart is garbage. It feels like there should be a pivot in data to a left to right funding amount.
Charts like these would be infinitely more informative if they were by Congressional district instead by state.
Also, this sort of chart should be cross-referenced with one that gives you the [balance of payments that states give and get to the federal government](https://rockinst.org/issue-areas/fiscal-analysis/balance-of-payments-portal/).
For example, Illinois is high on that list. But, overall their residents pay more to the federal government than they get back.
Also, Massachusetts and Louisiana are next to each other on that chart. Massachusetts residents pay more than twice as much to the federal government as an average Louisiana resident.
Basic education is woke left ideology. Apparently. But if it is, doesn’t that say something about how ridiculous it is to completely oppose it?
“Clean air and water is woke, brown water is just as good. In fact, healthier. It’s full of nutrients”
“How do nutrients work? Is there such a thing as poison?”
“God has a plan”
Source: [NCES Education Digest](https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/current_tables.asp)
Tools: Plotly for Python
the funding isn’t even across schools. in NY and NJ a few school systems get the vast majority of the money and most get very little
That’s the case for basically every single bucket of federal funding that goes back to states. The wealthiest states are overwhelmingly blue. Texas and Flordia are certainly booming – recently especially, but California, New York, and Illinois account for a quarter of the nation’s GDP, and are all about as reliably blue as states get. If you instead go to per capita GDP though, the difference is far starker.
The top 5 states in GDP per capita are New York, Massachusetts, Washington, California, and Connecticut. All as blue as states come in the US.
The bottom 5 states in GDP per capita are Mississippi, Arkansas, West Virginia, Alabama, and South Carolina. All about as red as states come.
I don’t think it’s inherent that poor people will be conservative and rich people will be liberal, that’s not the point, and the reality is that every place contains a broad ideological mix – there are more republicans in California than any other state for example. But in the case of things like this, yes, red states are always the places that benefit the most from federal funding projects. And as a liberal who lives in one the blue states who contributes way more to the federal government than we get in return, I think that’s a good thing! We’re one country, we should be trying to lift all boats.
This wasn’t done to help states or anything like it. It was to cut federal regulation on what states can do to indoctrinate kids. So, since there are more red states, they can use their schools now to manipulate children to try to not lose them to “wokness” or whatever boogeyman they are afraid of. This all stems from the fact that younger people are more left leaning and it scares those in power, especially in traditionally red states. They are doing everything in their power to prevent the electorate from shifting left. That’s it.
The funds from rich blue states will continue to be sent to poor red states. It will just be through a different channel (NYT)
Since when is VA a blue state?
I don’t feel like that data is ironic though for reasons like the overwhelming majority of black people live in red states.
Of course these areas will depend on federal aid more because former Jim Crow states use their minority and otherwise disenfranchised populations as hostages in every political action they take.
And now they’re red forever
Red states are the benificiary of Federal government funding in general. If there was a law that required the federal tax dollars collected in a state to be spent in that same state, Red states would be so screwed.
This is a very misleading perspective. The data needs to be collated by county so it can actually represent the population. All big cities are blue, even in the red states.
Nothing ironic about it. The dumbest states need the most federal help in not graduating imbeciles, as imbeciles are who they voted for state-wise. Pretty clear.
Not dismantled unless people go along with it. Resist!
My wife is a school secretary of a K through eight here in California and it’s not going to really affect their budget hardly at all.
Brought to you by the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party
Red states in general rely on more federal funding because they have smaller state governments
I don’t think it’s ironic at all, this is exactly what would be expected.
Isn’t it’s dismantling only possible by congress? If so why are you talking as if the executive order has any power? Power exists only because of submission to its claim. Is everyone just flopping over and exposing their bellies?
The idea here is furthering the Trump and Trump voter love of restricting and removing public education as a thing. Trump does far worse with getting people beyond grade school to vote for him and so he is really a Pol Pot type of figure when it comes to extremist hatred of people who have degrees or graduated from high school.
I predict the order will be overturned in court, probably quickly given the ample precedence of the last few weeks. The executive cannot order undone what the legislative has defined and authorized.
The joke is they’ll still get that funding…to open charter schools that can segregate while everyone else gets shit
If it goes away, you can bet your state/property taxes will go up so the states can afford it.
They’ll blame the Democrats.
Keeping us uneducated and complacent. The fascist playbook. I’m really just working to save up enough to jump ship. It took two months to turn America into a total shit hole. …and they’re not done yet!
They benefitted financially. But the benefits went to the lowest preforming schools, schools the states would rather just let fail.
The DOE prevented them from doing many of the things they want to do.
Jesus will return to classrooms, and DEI will be erased.
The future generations of students will be raised pledging themselves to the flag, and be indoctrinated into the patriotism of the early 20th century. The last generation to have experienced this was the early Millennials.
18 years from today, these new patriots will begin swarming the workforce, and cement conservative control which will last many generations.
Long live the Sacred States of America.
FYI, I live in Europe, but was initially raised in the US.
Maybe just a total % of funds received from DOE for each state?
What’s sad about this though is that many of the states that benefited have high proportions of Native American Tribes – something the DOE serviced through its Office of Indian Education. Yes, there is the Bureau of Indian Education (within the Department of the Interior), but the OIE administers grants and programs under Title VI of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act (ESEA).
This is so **not** informative… The actual dollars (or percent of total funding) would be way better
Socialist tax handout coupons for religious schools next
Do red states benefit more? /s
Red states have the lowest education rates.
The funding has not been dismantled. That would take an act of Congress. The states will still receive their normal funding for at least 1 more year as the President only controls the creation and dissolution of things under the Executive Branch. Congress has the power to fund. If the President tomorrow said “I’m going to create a Department of Silly Hats” it will be done, but won’t have any funding unless he ties one of its jobs into another funded Department.
I don’t think it’s ironic, it’s intentional.
Keeping already red or red leaning states uneducated 100% benefits the GOP.
It isn’t really irony as much as ignorant people mutilating themselves for papi trumpu.
They love to claim blue states are welfare states but then ignore states like Kentucky where they take roughly $9k per resident per year from the feds, conversely Cali was *contributing* around $110 per resident to the feds last I checked.
I would love to see blue states offer free tuition or interest-free student loans. Trump would probably have a stroke and try to stop them.
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