>Viewers who can’t bear to miss out on the best TV on offer – from Premier League and Champions League football to dramas such as The Crown and Peaky Blinders, and blockbuster franchises such as Star Wars and Marvel – will have to find about £200 a month on average.
“Yo-ho, yo-ho a … life for me.”
What we have now is “tv” where each “channel” we now have to pay for.
I’m out.
For films and series its better to just go back to physical media as “problematic” scenes or episodes are now mysteriously missing.
Streaming was the solution to having to purchase a myriad of different channel packs and DVDs. Cheap streaming is what killed the popularity of torrents. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
But that be a complicated thought for a simple pirate like me, yarr.
to buy or not to buy
that is the question
or to rent or not to rent
Nah man, still got uTorrent on my phone. Come at me streaming services.
So paying for every site available is expensive… shocker.
Yes there are a lot of sites but many are pretty poor so there’s not much reason to buy them.
Disney, Prime, Netflix and Now TV are still a damn sight cheaper than a Sky/BT/Virgin TV package and a TV license.
I do think the whole thing is overblown.
If you take our sports (which is definitely overpriced), most people are going to be streaming Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon (through prime delivery more than anything.)
And those three on their plans comes to £338 or £28 a month, which contrasted with Sky is insane value when you consider it’s advert free, has no tv license added on to pay and comes with other benefits – Amazon for example nets you free video games every month, plus the delivery services.
Personally I don’t think Netflix is good value at £15, but then I don’t watch tv that much, and I don’t seek to buy everything all at once or watch the latest and greatest.
I just think streaming is still overall in a reasonable place right now. The straw for me would be if they begin advertising, unskippable ads etc (that’s why I never understood why our friends over the pond promoted Hulu, fuck that noise, fuck that “ad free” plan.)
What I pay each month:
£9.99 Netflix;
£7.99 Prime;
£13.37 TV license;
£5 IPTV subscription;
£3 VPN;
£2 Real Debrid subscription!
So around £40 a month or £500 a year. That’s about what I can afford but I’ll watch what I want, when I want and I couldn’t do that with all the legal subscriptions available. You can basically get the same for £10 but I’m happy paying a bit for the convenience and to keep the wife happy.
When I think about it for a ***bit***, I imagine a ***torrent*** of alternatives to paying for multiple streaming services.
It’s coming full circle, I know a lot of reformed pirates that are turning back to it with the added benefits of scheduling and automation that applications like sonarr offer, it’s a very seamless experience.
When nowtv starts showing you ads on your paid subscription you know it’s time to sail the seven seas again.
Advertising using my bandwidth is to me totally unacceptable. Broadcast advertising not so bad given the medium of delivery.
I stick to just one at a time, then cancel it and move on to another one. I’m back on Netflix at the moment, but cancelled it recently and will subscribe to NowTV next to watch some of the old HBO shows. After that I’ll probably bounce to Amazon again.
As somebody who hadn’t pirated any content in about 15 years and was happy to pay, I’ve cancelled all my subscriptions. It’s just pure greed, I’m not f giving any of them a penny any more.
I don’t think streaming is outrageous and think for the amount of content, also being produced and investing into the uk film industry.
Used to pay to rent from blockbuster, pay tv licence fees, sky packages, buy DVD’s/box sets, watch adverts, cinema tickets etc
I don’t think it’s in a bad place. We share a sub with the housemate for Netflix – I do pay for Amazon because of the delivery service (which saves me on travel and time).
People seem to expect free content without realising the number of people employed and materials used to produce it.
Here’s what I want. I want to give **someone** say £20 a month. Then depending on what I watch, a bit of that money (less a network fee) is given to the makers.
What’s on offer? *EVERYTHING.*
I am free to pick whichever service provides the best curation, subs/dubs, or UI based on my wants at the time.
What I don’t want is a series of walled gardens where I have to buy a package for each service. I want a la carte. Closest you can do now is switch subscription every ~3 months.
And the likes of YouTube “selling” a copy of a movie for £13.50 is hysterically funny. Unless a DRM-free download is included in that price, they can forget it.
The industry is, once again, driving people towards copyright infringement by failing to provide the desired service.
Second golden age of piracy has arrived. And it’s much easier than the first time around.
The golden age of streaming is long gone. We’re back to the dark ages of cable but with a different name now.
For sport it is even worse. Want to watch all the football you can? You need a subscription to Sky, BT and Amazon, pushing £50 a month. Plus you don’t even get all the games cos some can’t be broadcast. Plus you still get ads.
So much for Netflix stopping the sharing of accounts, I have been using a friends netflix account for over 4 years. If he were to ever cancel his sub, I wouldnt get my own, I dont watch it enough anyway and there are always other ways of getting anything on there.
Honest question: do people really HAVE to watch all of this? Don’t they have other hobbies? Albeit the streaming vs. piracy discussion, I just can’t just imagine having the time to watch all of this crap.
We’ll look back on the value we bad from the license fee and realise what we lost.
Sounds like bollocks, I have a lot of streaming services and I am nowhere close to that amount
Netflix – 15£/month
Prime – 79/year, 6.59/month
Crunchyroll – 80£/year, 6.66£/month
Funimation – 50£/year, 4.16£/month
Discovery – 40£/year, 3.33£/month
Disney – 80£/year, 6.66£/month
Apple – 4.99£/month
===
47.39£/month
How can I become an “average user” paying 208£/month?
What am I missing?
If costs keep going up people will just go back to pirate methods like before.
Sod that. With the ever increasing fracturing of the streaming services and now needing multiple different subscriptions for everything I’ve simply consolidated everything into one easy monthly payment of £3.50 for a VPN instead. Back to raising the black flag.
Or you could just…not sub to every service at once? I hop into things like Disney/Apple etc for a month or two when I want to watch one particular series.
This is not the golden age. The golden age passed. This is the capitalist nightmare age
At this rate it’s a cheaper deal to pay for cable TV if you’re a telly fanatic. One subscription service alone would cost about £10 a month and so much stuff is fractured across all of it. Not to mention that we’re very close to having these services plaster ads over content that customers pay for.
Now imagine how many streaming services either are or will shortly be available to UK customers: FunimationNow, Crunchyroll, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hayu, BT TV, Rakuten, Sky Go, Paramount+, Disney+, NowTV, HBO Go, Britbox, YouTube Premium, Apple TV+, Mubi, Sky Sports, and so many others which may not even be available outside of the US & Canada.
[Remember those net neutrality campaigns which showed the doomsday scenario of ISPs selling tiered access to websites and apps as if they were cable TV packages?](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9868169/DQ7fUDuUMAEFbNW.jpg) ***We’re already at that point, albeit with internet streaming services. And the fat-cats are laughing their way to the bank while everybody eats it up. They put content online and act like they’re innovating on customer demands for digital content whilst segregating it apart and effectively nickel & diming their audiences.***
I’d say pick your poison but to experience a good chunk of television, you’re better off paying for cable.
For anime especially, half the mainstream stuff is geo blocked because greedy companies like Funimation and Manga UK are hoarding the licensing rights and sitting on them. Which means the only way to legitimately watch a lot of (particularly older) Japanese anime is to purchase expensive Blu Ray sets and a region-free DVD player. Otherwise the only other choice is illicit streaming sites or torrents.
I cannot advocate piracy due to the legal and ethical implications of stealing income from legitimate creators and publishers, but at the same time I cannot fault people for going down that path when it’s so damn expensive.
Breaking News: it costs a shit ton to watch everything available.
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>Viewers who can’t bear to miss out on the best TV on offer – from Premier League and Champions League football to dramas such as The Crown and Peaky Blinders, and blockbuster franchises such as Star Wars and Marvel – will have to find about £200 a month on average.
“Yo-ho, yo-ho a … life for me.”
What we have now is “tv” where each “channel” we now have to pay for.
I’m out.
For films and series its better to just go back to physical media as “problematic” scenes or episodes are now mysteriously missing.
Streaming was the solution to having to purchase a myriad of different channel packs and DVDs. Cheap streaming is what killed the popularity of torrents. You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become a villain.
But that be a complicated thought for a simple pirate like me, yarr.
to buy or not to buy
that is the question
or to rent or not to rent
Nah man, still got uTorrent on my phone. Come at me streaming services.
So paying for every site available is expensive… shocker.
Yes there are a lot of sites but many are pretty poor so there’s not much reason to buy them.
Disney, Prime, Netflix and Now TV are still a damn sight cheaper than a Sky/BT/Virgin TV package and a TV license.
I do think the whole thing is overblown.
If you take our sports (which is definitely overpriced), most people are going to be streaming Netflix, Disney+ and Amazon (through prime delivery more than anything.)
And those three on their plans comes to £338 or £28 a month, which contrasted with Sky is insane value when you consider it’s advert free, has no tv license added on to pay and comes with other benefits – Amazon for example nets you free video games every month, plus the delivery services.
Personally I don’t think Netflix is good value at £15, but then I don’t watch tv that much, and I don’t seek to buy everything all at once or watch the latest and greatest.
I just think streaming is still overall in a reasonable place right now. The straw for me would be if they begin advertising, unskippable ads etc (that’s why I never understood why our friends over the pond promoted Hulu, fuck that noise, fuck that “ad free” plan.)
What I pay each month:
£9.99 Netflix;
£7.99 Prime;
£13.37 TV license;
£5 IPTV subscription;
£3 VPN;
£2 Real Debrid subscription!
So around £40 a month or £500 a year. That’s about what I can afford but I’ll watch what I want, when I want and I couldn’t do that with all the legal subscriptions available. You can basically get the same for £10 but I’m happy paying a bit for the convenience and to keep the wife happy.
When I think about it for a ***bit***, I imagine a ***torrent*** of alternatives to paying for multiple streaming services.
It’s coming full circle, I know a lot of reformed pirates that are turning back to it with the added benefits of scheduling and automation that applications like sonarr offer, it’s a very seamless experience.
When nowtv starts showing you ads on your paid subscription you know it’s time to sail the seven seas again.
Advertising using my bandwidth is to me totally unacceptable. Broadcast advertising not so bad given the medium of delivery.
I stick to just one at a time, then cancel it and move on to another one. I’m back on Netflix at the moment, but cancelled it recently and will subscribe to NowTV next to watch some of the old HBO shows. After that I’ll probably bounce to Amazon again.
As somebody who hadn’t pirated any content in about 15 years and was happy to pay, I’ve cancelled all my subscriptions. It’s just pure greed, I’m not f giving any of them a penny any more.
I don’t think streaming is outrageous and think for the amount of content, also being produced and investing into the uk film industry.
Used to pay to rent from blockbuster, pay tv licence fees, sky packages, buy DVD’s/box sets, watch adverts, cinema tickets etc
I don’t think it’s in a bad place. We share a sub with the housemate for Netflix – I do pay for Amazon because of the delivery service (which saves me on travel and time).
People seem to expect free content without realising the number of people employed and materials used to produce it.
Here’s what I want. I want to give **someone** say £20 a month. Then depending on what I watch, a bit of that money (less a network fee) is given to the makers.
What’s on offer? *EVERYTHING.*
I am free to pick whichever service provides the best curation, subs/dubs, or UI based on my wants at the time.
What I don’t want is a series of walled gardens where I have to buy a package for each service. I want a la carte. Closest you can do now is switch subscription every ~3 months.
And the likes of YouTube “selling” a copy of a movie for £13.50 is hysterically funny. Unless a DRM-free download is included in that price, they can forget it.
The industry is, once again, driving people towards copyright infringement by failing to provide the desired service.
Second golden age of piracy has arrived. And it’s much easier than the first time around.
The golden age of streaming is long gone. We’re back to the dark ages of cable but with a different name now.
For sport it is even worse. Want to watch all the football you can? You need a subscription to Sky, BT and Amazon, pushing £50 a month. Plus you don’t even get all the games cos some can’t be broadcast. Plus you still get ads.
So much for Netflix stopping the sharing of accounts, I have been using a friends netflix account for over 4 years. If he were to ever cancel his sub, I wouldnt get my own, I dont watch it enough anyway and there are always other ways of getting anything on there.
Honest question: do people really HAVE to watch all of this? Don’t they have other hobbies? Albeit the streaming vs. piracy discussion, I just can’t just imagine having the time to watch all of this crap.
We’ll look back on the value we bad from the license fee and realise what we lost.
Sounds like bollocks, I have a lot of streaming services and I am nowhere close to that amount
Netflix – 15£/month
Prime – 79/year, 6.59/month
Crunchyroll – 80£/year, 6.66£/month
Funimation – 50£/year, 4.16£/month
Discovery – 40£/year, 3.33£/month
Disney – 80£/year, 6.66£/month
Apple – 4.99£/month
===
47.39£/month
How can I become an “average user” paying 208£/month?
What am I missing?
If costs keep going up people will just go back to pirate methods like before.
Sod that. With the ever increasing fracturing of the streaming services and now needing multiple different subscriptions for everything I’ve simply consolidated everything into one easy monthly payment of £3.50 for a VPN instead. Back to raising the black flag.
Or you could just…not sub to every service at once? I hop into things like Disney/Apple etc for a month or two when I want to watch one particular series.
This is not the golden age. The golden age passed. This is the capitalist nightmare age
At this rate it’s a cheaper deal to pay for cable TV if you’re a telly fanatic. One subscription service alone would cost about £10 a month and so much stuff is fractured across all of it. Not to mention that we’re very close to having these services plaster ads over content that customers pay for.
Now imagine how many streaming services either are or will shortly be available to UK customers: FunimationNow, Crunchyroll, Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hayu, BT TV, Rakuten, Sky Go, Paramount+, Disney+, NowTV, HBO Go, Britbox, YouTube Premium, Apple TV+, Mubi, Sky Sports, and so many others which may not even be available outside of the US & Canada.
[Remember those net neutrality campaigns which showed the doomsday scenario of ISPs selling tiered access to websites and apps as if they were cable TV packages?](https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9868169/DQ7fUDuUMAEFbNW.jpg) ***We’re already at that point, albeit with internet streaming services. And the fat-cats are laughing their way to the bank while everybody eats it up. They put content online and act like they’re innovating on customer demands for digital content whilst segregating it apart and effectively nickel & diming their audiences.***
I’d say pick your poison but to experience a good chunk of television, you’re better off paying for cable.
For anime especially, half the mainstream stuff is geo blocked because greedy companies like Funimation and Manga UK are hoarding the licensing rights and sitting on them. Which means the only way to legitimately watch a lot of (particularly older) Japanese anime is to purchase expensive Blu Ray sets and a region-free DVD player. Otherwise the only other choice is illicit streaming sites or torrents.
I cannot advocate piracy due to the legal and ethical implications of stealing income from legitimate creators and publishers, but at the same time I cannot fault people for going down that path when it’s so damn expensive.
Breaking News: it costs a shit ton to watch everything available.
How to fix: Live like a normal person.