Long term it might not be the best decision, as we are witnessing now.
Istg Orange Man is doing everything he can to make other countries make deals with China and other “rival” countries instead of with the USA…
MAKE OUR OWN
South korea is better. Stop buying from American traitors
No. But I doubt our politicians will have balls to back off from stupid deals with US. And well, we need weapons asap, not in decades in future.
He might be talking about Russia as his new ally. He’s in love with them, but as a great leader of a beautiful nation, he has some right concerns.
Talking about Europe – we should buy military planes made in Europe.
American allies and friends will wait until US chose a better president. Do mind that JD Vance is not a good pick.
The Gripen, Rafale, and Eurofighter are all bettter options right now that you can’t trust the US not to fuck us over a fever dream either their Tangerine Jesus or Elon Mózg had.
Nie, serio, prawicowcy. Jaki jest wasz endgame? Co on próbuje zdobyć?
Firstly, they already was doing that, even before Trump, if I am not mistaken. So there is no surprise there. Maybe that they are talking about it so boldly. Secondly, we need to buy certain equipment from other countries, aircraft and tanks are obvious one. So, from who? Tanks are “easy”, we got bunch of them from Korea, it seems. If deal was going to happen, as I didn’t heard much about it from some time and there was supposed to be factory build in Poland, so that is good. But aircraft? With any country, I think, there will be the same problem… Either they will give dump down version or we will be either way force to buy spare parts and service from there, so we will be dependant on their whims.
To be honest, the US has always sold export versions that are slightly worse than the ones they used themselves.
Everybody does it and it’s a standard practice.
Secondly, even the export version of the F35 is miles better than the competition and its likely the same will be the case with F47.
as a us citizen
im terribly sorry for this shit head for destroying us-polish relationship’s
Consider that also civilian assets, like Tesla cars, can be remotely managed and this could make of them american drones in case of war
Or because, “sadly”, there are anti-aerial systems that continually render most plane systems obsolete and because multibillion dollars in one plane and years of training can be accomplished by dozens of drones operated by skillful folk and AI?
So glad we can still buy German tanks and Swedish Planes
Only the ones that are strictly necessary and don’t have European alternatives.
Well it would be better if Poland starts investing in their own R&D research for weapons and Aeronautical stuff, just for the future.
And risking getting useless switched off pile of metal for billions of dollars? Nope. There are many alternatives in EU, and the money will stay in the EU, so this is a perfect alternative & a win-win situation.
So allies got monkey model. F-35m (monkey)
Did you just woke up? US Has same policy for I think 50 or 60 years. Nothing changed, the only one that might receive new gear is UK and that’s it rest gets something that was used for 20+ or more years
The us has done this for years. Same with any other major power arms dealer. They give you lesser stuff (usually toned down half a percent or so) as a just incase method.
Nothing new, many arms sold to certain countries have been toned down for a long time.
Agent Krasnoff is doing everything to make angry allies of the US.
Poland bought Korean tanks and howitzers recently but expensive.
So any country knows their product is inferior to US. The best is to invest in a secure platform and customize it to your needs NOT an export variant
I think that he has no idea what he is talking about or simply lying. Everything they produce for other countries is an export version of regular equipment. Abrams tanks that we bought don’t have the same armour as American one because it’s their technological secret. Same goes for targeting and tracking systems in those tanks.
What I’m trying to say is that this is not as big news as it seems.
That’s what soviets did to 3rd world arab and african countries like Libya, Syria and Iraq
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Long term it might not be the best decision, as we are witnessing now.
Istg Orange Man is doing everything he can to make other countries make deals with China and other “rival” countries instead of with the USA…
MAKE OUR OWN
South korea is better. Stop buying from American traitors
No. But I doubt our politicians will have balls to back off from stupid deals with US. And well, we need weapons asap, not in decades in future.
He might be talking about Russia as his new ally. He’s in love with them, but as a great leader of a beautiful nation, he has some right concerns.
Talking about Europe – we should buy military planes made in Europe.
American allies and friends will wait until US chose a better president. Do mind that JD Vance is not a good pick.
The Gripen, Rafale, and Eurofighter are all bettter options right now that you can’t trust the US not to fuck us over a fever dream either their Tangerine Jesus or Elon Mózg had.
Nie, serio, prawicowcy. Jaki jest wasz endgame? Co on próbuje zdobyć?
Firstly, they already was doing that, even before Trump, if I am not mistaken. So there is no surprise there. Maybe that they are talking about it so boldly. Secondly, we need to buy certain equipment from other countries, aircraft and tanks are obvious one. So, from who? Tanks are “easy”, we got bunch of them from Korea, it seems. If deal was going to happen, as I didn’t heard much about it from some time and there was supposed to be factory build in Poland, so that is good. But aircraft? With any country, I think, there will be the same problem… Either they will give dump down version or we will be either way force to buy spare parts and service from there, so we will be dependant on their whims.
To be honest, the US has always sold export versions that are slightly worse than the ones they used themselves.
Everybody does it and it’s a standard practice.
Secondly, even the export version of the F35 is miles better than the competition and its likely the same will be the case with F47.
as a us citizen
im terribly sorry for this shit head for destroying us-polish relationship’s
Consider that also civilian assets, like Tesla cars, can be remotely managed and this could make of them american drones in case of war
_Laughs in BAe stock prices_
“Pick up the [gun…](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG3TwjjfhBU)”
Or because, “sadly”, there are anti-aerial systems that continually render most plane systems obsolete and because multibillion dollars in one plane and years of training can be accomplished by dozens of drones operated by skillful folk and AI?
So glad we can still buy German tanks and Swedish Planes
Only the ones that are strictly necessary and don’t have European alternatives.
Well it would be better if Poland starts investing in their own R&D research for weapons and Aeronautical stuff, just for the future.
And risking getting useless switched off pile of metal for billions of dollars? Nope. There are many alternatives in EU, and the money will stay in the EU, so this is a perfect alternative & a win-win situation.
So allies got monkey model. F-35m (monkey)
Did you just woke up? US Has same policy for I think 50 or 60 years. Nothing changed, the only one that might receive new gear is UK and that’s it rest gets something that was used for 20+ or more years
The us has done this for years. Same with any other major power arms dealer. They give you lesser stuff (usually toned down half a percent or so) as a just incase method.
Nothing new, many arms sold to certain countries have been toned down for a long time.
Agent Krasnoff is doing everything to make angry allies of the US.
Poland bought Korean tanks and howitzers recently but expensive.
So any country knows their product is inferior to US. The best is to invest in a secure platform and customize it to your needs NOT an export variant
I think that he has no idea what he is talking about or simply lying. Everything they produce for other countries is an export version of regular equipment. Abrams tanks that we bought don’t have the same armour as American one because it’s their technological secret. Same goes for targeting and tracking systems in those tanks.
What I’m trying to say is that this is not as big news as it seems.
That’s what soviets did to 3rd world arab and african countries like Libya, Syria and Iraq
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