Half of UK’s most benefit dependent areas are in Scotland

https://www.thetimes.com/article/ea215106-0b2c-4b61-9723-996ae31d15b0?shareToken=179adb029286f472f3314549eb90e612

by libtin

13 comments
  1. Is it surprising that the further away from London a place is, the worst off it gets

  2. If Scotland left the union, welfare alone would absolutely crush their economy. Stronger together, now and forever.

  3. It’s hardly surprising. The SNP have been on a campaign of creating benefit dependency for the past decade. Hence why they do so well in Scotland, as to their core voters, every other party would be removing those benefits the SNP made them dependent on

  4. So the UK has 28 million private sector workers. They are expected to support 9 million economically inactive working age adults, 1.5 million unemployed, 13 million state pensioners and 6 million public sector workers

    This is completely unsustainable, which is why Labour are freaking out about the spending levels (they don’t want another Liz Truss borrowing cost bomb going off again). In a globalised world we are competiting against countries which also have a modern educated population but _without_ a massive welfare state to prop up, in other words our labour costs are increasingly uncompetitive, because taxation is so high.

    That being said, labour need to **create** jobs from the money saved from welfare cuts. I.e. redirect the tens of billions saved into things that will actually grow the economy and create jobs, so things like R&D spending, capital investment, infrastructure – this is how China grows its economy so much quicker than anyone else’s by the way, their government spending is focused on expanding their productive capacity instead of welfare redistribution.

  5. Support for independence is pretty high at the moment, though. People are optimistic about attaining a utopian socialist society in which everyone is on benefits and nobody has to do any work, if only we can get that second referendum.

  6. How is there so much poverty in Scotland, when its GDP per capita is much higher than Wales or Northern Ireland, and it has supposedly a more equal income distribution society than England? Why does Scotland have all these drug deaths as well? 

    All I can conclude is that all the numbers I’ve mentioned obscure a massive inequality between the Edinburgh and the nice parts of Glasgow vs the smaller towns and villages? 

    Is that it? 

  7. And the Scottish have messed up many of the results of our elections to make the country vote more left. Kind of figures.

  8. Makes sense. Not much investment in the UK outside of London, let alone Scotland. Lots of places very rural and hard to get to. Deindustrialisation has really hurt Scotland, as has the elimination of the manufacturing industry.

    Gone too fast, with nothing to replace them means Scotland will be playin catch up for decades. Lots of of Scots will slip under the poverty line in this time. Shame that.

  9. The more people build a dependency on the State, the bigger the State becomes, and the more people end up dependent on it. Some tough love will need distributing at some point in the very near future as the system isn’t sustainable.

  10. Bah, it’s clickbait.

    The areas in question are relatively small and not particularly populous, to start with.

    Not to say there aren’t issues, but they’re negligible. In the overall context of the wider UK.

  11. If Scotland left the union it could take over the North Sea. Terrible the conditions of being welfare addicts that have such a devastating effect on the population.  It reminds of what we did to Native American Indians.  

  12. Should just repurpose Scotland as a prison camp, seal them in at the border.

  13. This is not news, we’ve known this for years, the other half is made up of Welsh and the dregs of London.

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