Israel’s latest war plans: To occupy Gaza and rule Palestinians

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1. “Occupying Gaza and establishing military rule there would go beyond Israel’s stated war goals to end Hamas rule and free hostages captured in the Oct. 7, 2023, attack. The plans were first published Friday by the Israeli newspaper Haaretz.”

   Oh I’m so surprised. The Israeli state lied.

2. I thought Israel has always been occupying Gaza since 1967? There have been rulings over and over that Israel’s control over Gaza’s borders and airspace constitute occupation without any troop presence within Gaza. That even the full Israeli withdrawal doesn’t make Gaza any less occupied.

   So what changed? What makes Israel’s new plans suddenly occupation and the old situation not occupation? Or are there different levels of occupation and Israel is increasing the occupation level?

3. That’s what it was before peace activists got Israel to leave. Crazy how damaging the past 20 years has been. The Likud / Hamas combo has been a nightmare train wreck. (A slow mo one too if you’ve been paying attention these past 20 years)

   As deeply flawed as the Fatah were at least they didn’t consider dead Palestinians a useful political tool. Even more so than not considering them at all. 

4. Cant be worse than Hamas in charge.  No really, it’s better in every single way if they wanted to do this.  There’s literally no argument that things would be better off with Hamas.  Unless you are a bloodthirsty freak.  Prove me wrong Reddit.

5. The key thing to watch here is how the messaging of “free Gaza from Hamas” has long ended and Israel is now emphasizing this being punitive and talking about “minimum calories” and encouraging people to leave.

   Israel is setting the expectation early that it is going to rule pretty brutally and this isn’t a bringing freedom to people operation nor to expect anything but the bare minimum from a humanitarian perspective.

   Up to now, Israel has been relying on Hamas to free it from taking care of people… The IDF is much happier to have civilians in hospitals run by Hamas than having to actually take care of Gazans or offer any refuge. They go out of their way to take territory but no people and emphasize if you go near a soldier you will be shot (hence very limited PR photos of troops and kids like you might see in Afghanistan). “Hamas is the governing body of Gaza” is a frequent refrain from Israel apologists.

   Now with Trump, Israel doesn’t need a handicapped Hamas to save it from humanitarian responsibility – Bibi can just take over and rule in a gleeful immoral way. Expect it to be harder to get a camera than a gun in Gaza once that happens.

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