I also wonder why FrP is falling. Is immigration no longer a big concern?
Jens Stoltenberg
I vowed to never vote labour again, but after their success with foreign policy, and common sense immigration rhetoric (keeping it strict, but not vilifying non-ethnic norwegians and minorities) I might warm up to them.
I do not believe that they should ever team up with SP again. I would much rather love a SV/rødt + AP and maybe KrF (if they go back to family focus) coalition.
I am open to a conservative government as well, but they will need to focus on job/value creation, and boosting the opportunities of the budding professionals of this country. I am not sure how to do that but thats what politicians are for.
I also am missing a focus on the domestic housing policy, we need to build more homes – I know it is unpopular amongst home-owners, but we need to see a slow-down of the current price increases of homes, or a scheme for first time buyers that is more comprehensive than BSU.
What happened? Why such change in opinions? :O
Trump effect + Stoltenberg effect. They compliment each other; Trump makes people want safe, left of center politics by competent people, and Stoltenberg represents all that. And by losing Senterpartiet from the coalition, they are seen as more left of center, more competent and lose a little bit of the drawback from being the incumbent government.
I don’t think they’ll do much better, but they likely won’t fall back to the worst days, as both Stoltenberg and Trump will continue to be there untill the election.
I think Stoltenberg has helped rehabilitate the reputation of Labour, but this seems more reflective of a general public opinion shift in Europe (and Canada) in response to the recklessness and threats from Trump. If they can show a backbone, and stand up to Trump’s bullying and Russia’s territory grabs, they can probably win.
My opinion is one of an American living in Norway who does not want to return to the US until Trump is out of office
The market seems to respond positively 🙂
Jens coming back is one of two reasons why I have begun to consider voting for Ap. The other reason was the realization that Sp was the problem all along and that if Ap get enough votes they can once again do good things without having to compromise with idiot minority parties.
I will either be voting for Ap, H, or V.
I ruled out voting for MDG many years ago because of their Stalinist attitude towards environmental issues.
I ruled out voting for KrF many years ago because of the ridiculous laws that bondevik put on this country
I rules out voting for Sp many years ago because of their dangerous economic Trumpism.
I ruled out voting for FrP a few months ago because of Sylvi Listhaug choosing fox news over NRK, thus implying she is a female Trump/Quisling
I ruled out R and SV less than a month ago in response to their anti EU attitude despite the US becoming an enemy of Norway.
Im trying to get a job around Kristiansand but it’s impossible
Does Labour in Norway work for the working class or for the billionaire class in Norway?
Job market is shit and people want safety
I see that many people mention Stoltenberg. But im convinced that he is a solution to a deeper cause, rather than the cause of this trend.
The far right and USA has proven to be a threat and now people seek stability and leaders with the right qualification to govern. And thats where Stoltenberg comes in as a solution to the intenational situation.
What would be a realistic coalition? Ap and H? Is FrP being blacklisted by other parties like AfP in Germany?
From my perspective its like the wind turned and is blowing in all the sails in the Arbeiderpartiet’s ship at the same time. Though, this may change depending on global developments.
First, Jens Stoltenberg is like Norway’s JFK as another commenter put so eloquently, and he is well known as an excellent economist, and great foreign diplomat for Norway (especially when handling Trump). Jens Stoltenberg is also firmly against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which is an incredibly important topic because Norway borders Russia.
Secondly, the biggest issue voters have (sky-high electricity prices) is being resolved. I have friends and colleagues both far-left and far-right on the political spectrum, and everyone is quite evenly pleased with the new pricing plan. Voters from across the political spectrum prefer a focused party with a unified vision, rather than a fragile bickering coalition where everything is a compromise.
Third, FrP has for a long time ridden the American-style right-wing wave, with Sylvi Listhaug one time saying she preferred Fox News over Norway’s state broadcast NRK. This strategy worked really well in the past, but with Trump and Fox threatening to conquer Greenland, it has backfired immensely.
Fourth, there has been plenty of news about Elon Musk and his verbal attacks on unions, support for the German AfD, Nazi salute, anti-NATO rhetoric, and general chaotic tendencies which is in a 180 degree opposition to Janteloven (Law of Jante) which is a Scandinavian cultural perspective where one is expected to be (mostly) humble, cooperative, and not to rock the boat.
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I also wonder why FrP is falling. Is immigration no longer a big concern?
Jens Stoltenberg
I vowed to never vote labour again, but after their success with foreign policy, and common sense immigration rhetoric (keeping it strict, but not vilifying non-ethnic norwegians and minorities) I might warm up to them.
I do not believe that they should ever team up with SP again. I would much rather love a SV/rødt + AP and maybe KrF (if they go back to family focus) coalition.
I am open to a conservative government as well, but they will need to focus on job/value creation, and boosting the opportunities of the budding professionals of this country. I am not sure how to do that but thats what politicians are for.
I also am missing a focus on the domestic housing policy, we need to build more homes – I know it is unpopular amongst home-owners, but we need to see a slow-down of the current price increases of homes, or a scheme for first time buyers that is more comprehensive than BSU.
What happened? Why such change in opinions? :O
Trump effect + Stoltenberg effect. They compliment each other; Trump makes people want safe, left of center politics by competent people, and Stoltenberg represents all that. And by losing Senterpartiet from the coalition, they are seen as more left of center, more competent and lose a little bit of the drawback from being the incumbent government.
I don’t think they’ll do much better, but they likely won’t fall back to the worst days, as both Stoltenberg and Trump will continue to be there untill the election.
I think Stoltenberg has helped rehabilitate the reputation of Labour, but this seems more reflective of a general public opinion shift in Europe (and Canada) in response to the recklessness and threats from Trump. If they can show a backbone, and stand up to Trump’s bullying and Russia’s territory grabs, they can probably win.
My opinion is one of an American living in Norway who does not want to return to the US until Trump is out of office
The market seems to respond positively 🙂
Jens coming back is one of two reasons why I have begun to consider voting for Ap. The other reason was the realization that Sp was the problem all along and that if Ap get enough votes they can once again do good things without having to compromise with idiot minority parties.
I will either be voting for Ap, H, or V.
I ruled out voting for MDG many years ago because of their Stalinist attitude towards environmental issues.
I ruled out voting for KrF many years ago because of the ridiculous laws that bondevik put on this country
I rules out voting for Sp many years ago because of their dangerous economic Trumpism.
I ruled out voting for FrP a few months ago because of Sylvi Listhaug choosing fox news over NRK, thus implying she is a female Trump/Quisling
I ruled out R and SV less than a month ago in response to their anti EU attitude despite the US becoming an enemy of Norway.
Im trying to get a job around Kristiansand but it’s impossible
Does Labour in Norway work for the working class or for the billionaire class in Norway?
Job market is shit and people want safety
I see that many people mention Stoltenberg. But im convinced that he is a solution to a deeper cause, rather than the cause of this trend.
The far right and USA has proven to be a threat and now people seek stability and leaders with the right qualification to govern. And thats where Stoltenberg comes in as a solution to the intenational situation.
What would be a realistic coalition? Ap and H? Is FrP being blacklisted by other parties like AfP in Germany?
From my perspective its like the wind turned and is blowing in all the sails in the Arbeiderpartiet’s ship at the same time. Though, this may change depending on global developments.
First, Jens Stoltenberg is like Norway’s JFK as another commenter put so eloquently, and he is well known as an excellent economist, and great foreign diplomat for Norway (especially when handling Trump). Jens Stoltenberg is also firmly against Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, which is an incredibly important topic because Norway borders Russia.
Secondly, the biggest issue voters have (sky-high electricity prices) is being resolved. I have friends and colleagues both far-left and far-right on the political spectrum, and everyone is quite evenly pleased with the new pricing plan. Voters from across the political spectrum prefer a focused party with a unified vision, rather than a fragile bickering coalition where everything is a compromise.
Third, FrP has for a long time ridden the American-style right-wing wave, with Sylvi Listhaug one time saying she preferred Fox News over Norway’s state broadcast NRK. This strategy worked really well in the past, but with Trump and Fox threatening to conquer Greenland, it has backfired immensely.
Fourth, there has been plenty of news about Elon Musk and his verbal attacks on unions, support for the German AfD, Nazi salute, anti-NATO rhetoric, and general chaotic tendencies which is in a 180 degree opposition to Janteloven (Law of Jante) which is a Scandinavian cultural perspective where one is expected to be (mostly) humble, cooperative, and not to rock the boat.
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