All those small parts could be made in the US aswell. The most important part is the Software which is American. Even if all European Countries stop producing parts i dont think it would have a major impact on production except maybe higher prices.
This diagram is missing the electronics and software package, which is the real concern
Rolls-royce is a UK company, not UK/USA 👍🏼
Makes me wonder, has America ever said thanks for us Brits providing them the components necessary to build their jets?
To be fair to the U.S, most of the BAE Systems components are produced by their North American subsidiary (which makes around half of the company’s entire revenue). That is if I remember correctly, of course.
It’s missing the ejection seat, made by UK based Martin-Baker
Gkn fokker also does the majority of the EWIS
I’m not sure what the point of this thread actually is. Lockheed Martin designed the actual plane so I doubt the US would have any trouble producing the parts. It’s not something that would be a long term problem for them.
It’s called the Joint Strike Fighter for a reason, any of these countries could add a kill switch.
The plane is wonderful.
🇬🇧🇬🇧God Save the King!
MBDA is french-english
Europeans discovering how NATO works in real time.
Wow Awsome post. I did not know that. Also kudos to UK! Btw, Uk when are u coming back to EU! We freaking miss u !
This is to create incentive for NATO countries to buy the plane, not for the lack of technology. You can source the landing gear from Temu instead of relying on Dutch Fokker.
That’s a lot of British components!
Don’t forget that Rheinmetall is currently in the final stages of completing a factory in Germany to produce parts for the F-35 as well.
the other day i read rheinmetall also provides important parts?
Prepare to stay in the air forever without the European landing gear
… meaning Norway could block sales or service on the F35? Didn’t think so …
It might as well be British.
Let me tell you the answer, not much.
Rolls Royce is owned in its entirety by the British government, where did you find this?
Looks like Lockheed Martin is on the charm offensive to rally support.
The data server are in Texas, aren’t they?
Ok, so pretty much all the important stuff including all software, data collection, training facility, and gear is behind US supply chain
On the other hand what Europe supplies is nothing essential and easily replaceable
Great! Cancel all European Orders and forbid export of those components. Why should Europe build fighter jets that will be used to threaten the EU
Denmark also recently found out that America also owns all the spare parts as they were forced to send their spare parts for the F-35s from their stock to Israel to boost their war effort. Something to keep in mind before buying these US owned planes.
Enough there to do a hands off don’t F around deal with the Jaffa then?
Pretty sure the engine is British and the AN/APG-81 radar uses dutch part from Thales Netherlands.
Only the Dutch F35’s get first grade landing gear.
It’s An amazing bit of kit, however it’s sold by a now unreliable seller, who may in a fit of pique remotely disable or limit its capabilities, which in a full bore war with Russia (let’s not mince words, they’re the largest threat to Europe, not china) this could cost European lives.
Software is the most important, besides if we have export ban on the US they can start either producing parts themselves or relaunch the production of F22. They always make deals they come out on top
Turks still produce some parts but you didnt add them to list
The 100000 $ screws are American for sure.
Cut the supply before they steal it.
Maybe Rolls Royce can disable all the engines remotely.
This is some propaganda from Lockheed Martin, from their own site.
Nothing to be proud of as a European: ”Oh Norway got to make the engineshaft on their own planes. Cool!”
It’s not like the US is dependent on Norway making engine shafts for the US-designed engine…
When visiting the site this image comes from, one can feel the panic from Lockheed Martin that Europe will cancel orders. It’s ”King Charles inspects…” ”there is no kill switch” ”allied forces” and so on.
can see who the tier 1 partner is
By the same logic, iPhone is Chinese.
The software is American, and surely contains a kill switch – so bad luck for all the EU states crawling into the US posterior, you have thrown your money to the gutter.
When Americans attack Europe, those planes won’t fly.
Make an F-36 but just European exactly the same haha
As much as I would like Europe to be independent of Trump’s institutional vandalism, you should highlight what percent of components – hardware and software – are American company made. That would certainly not be pretty…
That is why they are moving towards F-47, which surely will be built only in America /j
Forgot the ejection seat from Martin-Baker in the UK, fitted across all variants.
There is a huge European industrial base established for support of the F-35 multilateral program, which should really be advertised more than it is.
Norwegian Kongsberg Defence and Aerospace + Aviation Maintenance Services (former AIM Norway) are involved in both production and maintenance of F-35 control surfaces, airframe components, and parts of the F135 engine systems. KAMS runs one of the few F135 engine maintenance depots outside of the US.
Norwegian Kitron ASA works with Northrop Grumman on the ICNI system of the aircraft. GKN Aerospace (Former Volvo Aero) manufactures structural, engine, wiring, and canopy components.
Norwegian NAMMO manufactures the 25x137mm PGU-32U, -47U, -51B, and -52B ammunition for the onboard cannon system. They also manufacture ammunition for most US and NATO weapon systems airborne or otherwise. Ammo for 20mm aircraft cannons, 30mm IFV/APC autocannons, the much beloved 12.7mm/.50 cal NM140 Multi Purpose for aircraft and vehicles, and polymer cased lightweight ammunition for aircraft use.
Danish Multicut makes F135 components, and Terma AS makes cannon mounts. Finnish Patria makes structural components and landing gear doors, Dutch Fokker and Belgian Sonaca make structural and engine components. Fokker also makes a lot of the wiring harnesses for different systems in the aircraft and Dutch-Shape BV, French Komax, Italian OMPM Srl, and German KUKA Aero make manufacturing tooling for the program.
French Air Liquide makes the OBOGS and parts of the fuel inerting system, Safran makes avionics components, and Saft makes batteries for the aircraft.
Italian Aerea S.p.A, Aero TCS Srl, and APR srl make parts for the F135 engine.
The biggest of all is British BAE, who have a hand on every piece of pie, from structures and propulsion to avionics and weapon systems. Including large portions of the F-35B engine/hovering systems. And Martin Baker, who builds and supplies all the ejection seats.
Among many others, unlisted and unknown.
European companies did manufacture and support the F-16 for half a century, after all. So, there is a bit of local knowledge in working with GD/LM.
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All those small parts could be made in the US aswell. The most important part is the Software which is American. Even if all European Countries stop producing parts i dont think it would have a major impact on production except maybe higher prices.
This diagram is missing the electronics and software package, which is the real concern
Rolls-royce is a UK company, not UK/USA 👍🏼
Makes me wonder, has America ever said thanks for us Brits providing them the components necessary to build their jets?
To be fair to the U.S, most of the BAE Systems components are produced by their North American subsidiary (which makes around half of the company’s entire revenue). That is if I remember correctly, of course.
It’s missing the ejection seat, made by UK based Martin-Baker
Gkn fokker also does the majority of the EWIS
I’m not sure what the point of this thread actually is. Lockheed Martin designed the actual plane so I doubt the US would have any trouble producing the parts. It’s not something that would be a long term problem for them.
It’s called the Joint Strike Fighter for a reason, any of these countries could add a kill switch.
The plane is wonderful.
🇬🇧🇬🇧God Save the King!
MBDA is french-english
Europeans discovering how NATO works in real time.
Wow Awsome post. I did not know that. Also kudos to UK! Btw, Uk when are u coming back to EU! We freaking miss u !
This is to create incentive for NATO countries to buy the plane, not for the lack of technology. You can source the landing gear from Temu instead of relying on Dutch Fokker.
That’s a lot of British components!
Don’t forget that Rheinmetall is currently in the final stages of completing a factory in Germany to produce parts for the F-35 as well.
the other day i read rheinmetall also provides important parts?
Prepare to stay in the air forever without the European landing gear
… meaning Norway could block sales or service on the F35? Didn’t think so …
It might as well be British.
Let me tell you the answer, not much.
Rolls Royce is owned in its entirety by the British government, where did you find this?
Looks like Lockheed Martin is on the charm offensive to rally support.
The data server are in Texas, aren’t they?
Ok, so pretty much all the important stuff including all software, data collection, training facility, and gear is behind US supply chain
On the other hand what Europe supplies is nothing essential and easily replaceable
Great! Cancel all European Orders and forbid export of those components. Why should Europe build fighter jets that will be used to threaten the EU
Denmark also recently found out that America also owns all the spare parts as they were forced to send their spare parts for the F-35s from their stock to Israel to boost their war effort. Something to keep in mind before buying these US owned planes.
Enough there to do a hands off don’t F around deal with the Jaffa then?
Pretty sure the engine is British and the AN/APG-81 radar uses dutch part from Thales Netherlands.
Only the Dutch F35’s get first grade landing gear.
It’s An amazing bit of kit, however it’s sold by a now unreliable seller, who may in a fit of pique remotely disable or limit its capabilities, which in a full bore war with Russia (let’s not mince words, they’re the largest threat to Europe, not china) this could cost European lives.
Software is the most important, besides if we have export ban on the US they can start either producing parts themselves or relaunch the production of F22. They always make deals they come out on top
Turks still produce some parts but you didnt add them to list
The 100000 $ screws are American for sure.
Cut the supply before they steal it.
Maybe Rolls Royce can disable all the engines remotely.
This is some propaganda from Lockheed Martin, from their own site.
Nothing to be proud of as a European: ”Oh Norway got to make the engineshaft on their own planes. Cool!”
It’s not like the US is dependent on Norway making engine shafts for the US-designed engine…
When visiting the site this image comes from, one can feel the panic from Lockheed Martin that Europe will cancel orders. It’s ”King Charles inspects…” ”there is no kill switch” ”allied forces” and so on.
can see who the tier 1 partner is
By the same logic, iPhone is Chinese.
The software is American, and surely contains a kill switch – so bad luck for all the EU states crawling into the US posterior, you have thrown your money to the gutter.
When Americans attack Europe, those planes won’t fly.
Make an F-36 but just European exactly the same haha
As much as I would like Europe to be independent of Trump’s institutional vandalism, you should highlight what percent of components – hardware and software – are American company made. That would certainly not be pretty…
That is why they are moving towards F-47, which surely will be built only in America /j
Forgot the ejection seat from Martin-Baker in the UK, fitted across all variants.
There is a huge European industrial base established for support of the F-35 multilateral program, which should really be advertised more than it is.
Norwegian Kongsberg Defence and Aerospace + Aviation Maintenance Services (former AIM Norway) are involved in both production and maintenance of F-35 control surfaces, airframe components, and parts of the F135 engine systems. KAMS runs one of the few F135 engine maintenance depots outside of the US.
Norwegian Kitron ASA works with Northrop Grumman on the ICNI system of the aircraft. GKN Aerospace (Former Volvo Aero) manufactures structural, engine, wiring, and canopy components.
Norwegian NAMMO manufactures the 25x137mm PGU-32U, -47U, -51B, and -52B ammunition for the onboard cannon system. They also manufacture ammunition for most US and NATO weapon systems airborne or otherwise. Ammo for 20mm aircraft cannons, 30mm IFV/APC autocannons, the much beloved 12.7mm/.50 cal NM140 Multi Purpose for aircraft and vehicles, and polymer cased lightweight ammunition for aircraft use.
Danish Multicut makes F135 components, and Terma AS makes cannon mounts. Finnish Patria makes structural components and landing gear doors, Dutch Fokker and Belgian Sonaca make structural and engine components. Fokker also makes a lot of the wiring harnesses for different systems in the aircraft and Dutch-Shape BV, French Komax, Italian OMPM Srl, and German KUKA Aero make manufacturing tooling for the program.
French Air Liquide makes the OBOGS and parts of the fuel inerting system, Safran makes avionics components, and Saft makes batteries for the aircraft.
Italian Aerea S.p.A, Aero TCS Srl, and APR srl make parts for the F135 engine.
The biggest of all is British BAE, who have a hand on every piece of pie, from structures and propulsion to avionics and weapon systems. Including large portions of the F-35B engine/hovering systems. And Martin Baker, who builds and supplies all the ejection seats.
Among many others, unlisted and unknown.
European companies did manufacture and support the F-16 for half a century, after all. So, there is a bit of local knowledge in working with GD/LM.
The kill switch is American tho
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