I can't believe me or most of my friends cannot afford simple and decent apartment (while earning above-average salaries), while some pensioners had not only received pensions of 5000€, but had them indexed. This is absolutely insane. Belgium should really introduce some ceiling on those pensions – 3000€ is already a lot (granted you have no mortgage), anything above is crazy given how working population is struggling. Source: https://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/1504456/pensions-over-e5000-will-no-longer-be-indexed

by absurdherowaw

16 comments

  1. The issue is that if this ceiling isn’t temporary or indexed, this will slowly impact more and more people due to the inflation and finally totally kill the indexation system on pensions.

  2. Is bruto hé! Schiet amper de helft van over… Zie eens op my pension wat jou netto gaat zijn. Dan zit je ver boven die max van 3k bruto die jij voorsteld.
    Mensen en financiën, blijft toch een slechte combinatie. Moet dringend een verplicht vak op school worden…

  3. 5000 € might seem a lot know, but in 20 – 30 – 40 years it will be not be much to get by.

  4. Vandaag komen ze voor de indexatie op pensioenen, morgen voor de indexatie van de lonen.

  5. good, long overdue.

    Imho they should have “reset” the system a decade ag and redid every pension with simualr rules for everyone.

    It would allow the gov to curb the highest and increase the lowest whhile weeding out all the nonsense like having a pension when being unemployed so to make the system more fair

  6. This will be 3000-3400 net. For a professor or judge I don’t feel this is too high.

  7. To hammer it in again: indexation is not an increase. It is a method to maintain a level purchase power. Indexation is basically “keeping the pension/salary the same”.

    This is the government reducing people’s pension.

    And before you start going off on “those excessive government pensions”: government staff only have one pension, the legal pension. These high pensions are earned by tmanagement position. In the private sector, the managers have the legal pension, the second pillar, and a whole slew of golden handshakes. Their pensions are faaar higher than the government pensions. So you are comparing the full government pensions with only a part of the private retirement funds.

  8. Ha… Ask for more instead of telling someone else should get less…

  9. Depends, if they made a lot of money in the private sector in the past..

    But if their highly taxed salary, back in the days,
     was made by high government wages ( indirectly paid by taxes)

    Then they passed at the Tax Fairy cashier twice

    In reality,
    the highest pensions on average are ambtenaren_pensions,

     which means those people have been living their whole damn life  on Tax Money 

    And shouldn’t complain with only 5k/month pension

  11. Damn I thought this was actually going to happen, I was happy this disgusting abuse is at least getting tackled a little bit. But wait for the unions, this is attacking their kind.

  12. Is this a theoretical only case, or were some people really earning that much on pension?

    If so, how? Retired politicians? lol

  14. Divide and conquer. Don’t kid yourself into believing that you or your friends will benefit from other people getting less than previously agreed upon. If you want a coup or revolution, start messing with people’s earned rights. Cutting your neighbour’s pension will not buy your friend an appartment.

  16. Just start going into the direction to abolish pensions, have less taxes and make people create their own savings.

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