I bet pronouns would matter to her if we all started calling her “he/him”….
What a shitty take as well
So will this mean the government will stop it’s debate about the BBC and desire to emasculate it, or in another way, it’s culture war against it?
Sure. Let everyone choose the pronouns they want and everyone can stop debating about whether that’s acceptable.
One is a government with a reliance on stifling public debate and demonstration while exploiting the preference of its population for authoritarianism, historical amnesia and Queer bashing, the other is Putin’s Russia!
Let’s not attach class and culture wars to real wars, please.
That reads like someone who likes the propaganda argument in favour of the war, that it’s a legitimate invasion because Ukraine & Russia have a shared history.
Liz taking the foundation and suggesting cultural progress ( enlightenment) should stop because of the U.K.’s shared history.
We’ve seen the current government use this argument before, but never before link it so blatantly with Vladimir Putin.
It was our own elite who promoted this stuff.
They got spooked after the financial crisis with working people organically banding together to stand up for their interests forming anti elite movements like Occupy Wall Street.
Their solution was a shock and awe blitzkrieg of unrelenting indentity politics. Divide and conquer their own populace so we fight each other instead of asking questions of them.
Problem is, it worked a bit too well and like most of the western elites agenda over my lifetime, it was completely short sighted. Domestically the population is too divided to be united against a perceived common enemy like Russia. Russia knows this.
Now, they are going to do a frantic about turn and pretend the last decade and a half of sowing constant division among working people didn’t happen and we should all kumbaya round the fire and bang the drums of war hand in hand.
Don’t let them.
There is simply nobody in this current Tory Cabinet that is the least bit competent, has a modicum of empathy or anything resembling a soul.
They are mostly idiots, evil or evil idiots.
Fuck off you waste of skin and bones. It’s just insane that this all they think about when there’s a war going on. These people are so obsessed with “woke” ideology they pretend is damaging our society. It’s so fucking embarrassing.
War in Ukraine should also settle the “scon/scone” debate.
“Our history, warts and all, makes us who we are” – so those people who want to remove statues of prominent people who made their money off the back of slaves or the different groups who want to be referred to by their correct pronouns are not part of who we are?
How’s that work then?
This is just a strange way of the government saying that they don’t want to engage with anyone who finds themselves in the minority on anything.
>“now is the time to end the culture of self-doubt, the constant self-questioning and introspection – the ludicrous debates about languages, statues and pronouns”
Translation: Shut up, do as we say without question, and know your place, queer wierdos.
Though it’s no surprise to find out Liz Truss thinks introspection and self-questioning is a bad thing to be stamped out. I don’t think she’s particularly familiar with introspection herself, or maybe she’s be less of a nasty little weasel.
It’s really disgusting how they’re using the Ukrainian invasion to push more politically divisive nonsense like this.
Why should it? We can talk about more than thing at once.
The tories are doing nothing to help the people of Ukraine so they can stop using this war as a scapegoat topic.
Man so many people here have utterly missed the point.
Look these conferences are not about attracting new voters, its not about reaching out to people who dislike / hate the Tories.
These conferences are all about giving lip service to those who are die hard Tory Voters.
They are designed to rouse the troops so to speak.
What is interesting about this particular conference is that it feels very much like a conference before an Election..
If Sunak announces Tax breaks in the coming weeks then I garatuee they will call a GE for next year.
I swear to God Boris has done a deal with devil because shit keeps going his way.
Everytime you think twat is fucked something comes along that gives him a massive boost.
The Ukrainian War was a gift from the God’s for Boris.
He was halfway out the door, everything was going to shit, it genuinely looked and felt that he was gone, dead man walking.
This War has taken all the attention away from the past few years and given Boris an opportunity to go for broke and boy has taken advantage.
Whoever is writting these speeches for Boris and Trust is fucking nailing it.
Not only are Tory supporters are lapping this shit up but so are many people who switched over to them because of Brexit and of course all the those racist fuckers who would normally vote for the BNP and similar twatish groups.
I can see Boris winning a GE with ease and fuck me that is depressing..
any other policies we can shoe-horn in along with the Ukrainian war….
obviously we’ve already justified brexit
maybe we could strip people’s privacy because of the war
the war in Ukraine should bring an end to people’s ability to protest maybe…
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what the fuck are these people on about?!?!?!??!
Tories need exiling after this is over. Took money from the Russians and are dirty to the core. Now they think we’ve forgotten as they do pathetic role
plays of Churchill.
Churchill never took nazi money, you morally bankrupt scumbags.
Wow trust the tories to use a fucking war to continue their own petty point scoring and culture war here.
What a bunch of lowlife degeneratives
What the fuck do those things have to do with each other???
Let me use this war to shoehorn in my opinion about something unrelated which everyone should adopt.
People actually vote for these idiots.
Disgusting.
Of course they’re trying to weaponise an awful war to their own benefit.
Guess what Liz, we can care about the war and still have room to care about other things too.
It’s possible to care about more than one thing at a time.
Also, the day I take moral advice from Liz Truss is the day I go and live with the mole people.
Does anyone understand what she’s actually fucking talking about?
Bountiful apple harvest means we should stop discussing oranges.
Liz truss.. . Generally says nonsense, how is war in Ukraine a gender issue? Both are valid. But Liz Truss as our saviour?? Hmmm
I continue to be disgusted that these thick as shit, Russian owned fucksticks are not only in charge of the country but are seemingly worshipped by our population of ever diminishing intelligence.
What has Ukraine got to do with pronouns or statues, even more what has a so called foreign secretary got to do with having an opinion on them?
Oh so they are finally gonna let trans people live their life. How refreshing.
““We’re ending our dependency on authoritarian regimes,” she said. The West focused on cheap goods at the expense of freedom and security. Never again.””
Isn’t Boris Johnson literally just back from a trip to Saudi Arabia this week to boost relations and ideally buy more of their oil? I guess a country with gender apartheid, public executions, and an ongoing war with Yemen (killing an estimated 377,000 people) is the kind of model country we should work with, according to Liz Truss. There’s nothing authoritarian about them at all!
The Conservatives love culture war bullshit as it saves them having to discuss actual policy.
Were we to do that it would show their policies are deeply harmful for the people of the UK. Not to mention all the Russian money they’ve been taking, not to mention all the other despotic regimes like Saudi Arabia they chum up to.
It can certainly end those debates.
We shouldn’t have statues of people who have values like Putin has.
End of debate.
Local Woman unable to comprehend caring about multiple things at once.
I love how she cares about freedom and democracy but then also doesn’t care about the freedom for people to choose their own pronouns because that would be the arbitrary point that’s “ridiculous”
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I think I’m missing something. How are pronouns and statues relevant to the war in Ukraine?
This is brilliant coming from a party that is imposing the most draconic laws ever in the UK. [The right to protest is now subjective](https://www.gov.uk/protests-and-marches-letting-the-police-know). If the government thinks you are being too noisy, then it becomes illegal. And how that is applied is very evident in the Sarah Everard protest V’s the Covid protests around the same time. When we look at how protesters are being arrested in Red Square with disgust, just remember that we have those laws applied here now.
They have attacks the judicial system by trying to grab extra powers. Their leader provoked attacks on Starmer, and continued to do so even when it was pointed out how dangerous this was. Truss herself was questioned about this on the BBC and said Johnson could do no wrong. Many in the party are currently being investigated under the party gate scandal. And the most disgusting part of all of this was how the police dodged actually doing their job to investigate in the first place.
These are really not the people to stand up and promote democracy or common decency values.
Only Britain could have an Anti-woke equalities minister.
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I bet pronouns would matter to her if we all started calling her “he/him”….
What a shitty take as well
So will this mean the government will stop it’s debate about the BBC and desire to emasculate it, or in another way, it’s culture war against it?
Sure. Let everyone choose the pronouns they want and everyone can stop debating about whether that’s acceptable.
One is a government with a reliance on stifling public debate and demonstration while exploiting the preference of its population for authoritarianism, historical amnesia and Queer bashing, the other is Putin’s Russia!
Let’s not attach class and culture wars to real wars, please.
That reads like someone who likes the propaganda argument in favour of the war, that it’s a legitimate invasion because Ukraine & Russia have a shared history.
Liz taking the foundation and suggesting cultural progress ( enlightenment) should stop because of the U.K.’s shared history.
We’ve seen the current government use this argument before, but never before link it so blatantly with Vladimir Putin.
It was our own elite who promoted this stuff.
They got spooked after the financial crisis with working people organically banding together to stand up for their interests forming anti elite movements like Occupy Wall Street.
Their solution was a shock and awe blitzkrieg of unrelenting indentity politics. Divide and conquer their own populace so we fight each other instead of asking questions of them.
Problem is, it worked a bit too well and like most of the western elites agenda over my lifetime, it was completely short sighted. Domestically the population is too divided to be united against a perceived common enemy like Russia. Russia knows this.
Now, they are going to do a frantic about turn and pretend the last decade and a half of sowing constant division among working people didn’t happen and we should all kumbaya round the fire and bang the drums of war hand in hand.
Don’t let them.
There is simply nobody in this current Tory Cabinet that is the least bit competent, has a modicum of empathy or anything resembling a soul.
They are mostly idiots, evil or evil idiots.
Fuck off you waste of skin and bones. It’s just insane that this all they think about when there’s a war going on. These people are so obsessed with “woke” ideology they pretend is damaging our society. It’s so fucking embarrassing.
War in Ukraine should also settle the “scon/scone” debate.
“Our history, warts and all, makes us who we are” – so those people who want to remove statues of prominent people who made their money off the back of slaves or the different groups who want to be referred to by their correct pronouns are not part of who we are?
How’s that work then?
This is just a strange way of the government saying that they don’t want to engage with anyone who finds themselves in the minority on anything.
>“now is the time to end the culture of self-doubt, the constant self-questioning and introspection – the ludicrous debates about languages, statues and pronouns”
Translation: Shut up, do as we say without question, and know your place, queer wierdos.
Though it’s no surprise to find out Liz Truss thinks introspection and self-questioning is a bad thing to be stamped out. I don’t think she’s particularly familiar with introspection herself, or maybe she’s be less of a nasty little weasel.
It’s really disgusting how they’re using the Ukrainian invasion to push more politically divisive nonsense like this.
Why should it? We can talk about more than thing at once.
The tories are doing nothing to help the people of Ukraine so they can stop using this war as a scapegoat topic.
Man so many people here have utterly missed the point.
Look these conferences are not about attracting new voters, its not about reaching out to people who dislike / hate the Tories.
These conferences are all about giving lip service to those who are die hard Tory Voters.
They are designed to rouse the troops so to speak.
What is interesting about this particular conference is that it feels very much like a conference before an Election..
If Sunak announces Tax breaks in the coming weeks then I garatuee they will call a GE for next year.
I swear to God Boris has done a deal with devil because shit keeps going his way.
Everytime you think twat is fucked something comes along that gives him a massive boost.
The Ukrainian War was a gift from the God’s for Boris.
He was halfway out the door, everything was going to shit, it genuinely looked and felt that he was gone, dead man walking.
This War has taken all the attention away from the past few years and given Boris an opportunity to go for broke and boy has taken advantage.
Whoever is writting these speeches for Boris and Trust is fucking nailing it.
Not only are Tory supporters are lapping this shit up but so are many people who switched over to them because of Brexit and of course all the those racist fuckers who would normally vote for the BNP and similar twatish groups.
I can see Boris winning a GE with ease and fuck me that is depressing..
any other policies we can shoe-horn in along with the Ukrainian war….
obviously we’ve already justified brexit
maybe we could strip people’s privacy because of the war
the war in Ukraine should bring an end to people’s ability to protest maybe…
​
what the fuck are these people on about?!?!?!??!
Tories need exiling after this is over. Took money from the Russians and are dirty to the core. Now they think we’ve forgotten as they do pathetic role
plays of Churchill.
Churchill never took nazi money, you morally bankrupt scumbags.
Wow trust the tories to use a fucking war to continue their own petty point scoring and culture war here.
What a bunch of lowlife degeneratives
What the fuck do those things have to do with each other???
Let me use this war to shoehorn in my opinion about something unrelated which everyone should adopt.
People actually vote for these idiots.
Disgusting.
Of course they’re trying to weaponise an awful war to their own benefit.
Guess what Liz, we can care about the war and still have room to care about other things too.
It’s possible to care about more than one thing at a time.
Also, the day I take moral advice from Liz Truss is the day I go and live with the mole people.
Does anyone understand what she’s actually fucking talking about?
Bountiful apple harvest means we should stop discussing oranges.
Liz truss.. . Generally says nonsense, how is war in Ukraine a gender issue? Both are valid. But Liz Truss as our saviour?? Hmmm
I continue to be disgusted that these thick as shit, Russian owned fucksticks are not only in charge of the country but are seemingly worshipped by our population of ever diminishing intelligence.
What has Ukraine got to do with pronouns or statues, even more what has a so called foreign secretary got to do with having an opinion on them?
Oh so they are finally gonna let trans people live their life. How refreshing.
““We’re ending our dependency on authoritarian regimes,” she said. The West focused on cheap goods at the expense of freedom and security. Never again.””
Isn’t Boris Johnson literally just back from a trip to Saudi Arabia this week to boost relations and ideally buy more of their oil? I guess a country with gender apartheid, public executions, and an ongoing war with Yemen (killing an estimated 377,000 people) is the kind of model country we should work with, according to Liz Truss. There’s nothing authoritarian about them at all!
The Conservatives love culture war bullshit as it saves them having to discuss actual policy.
Were we to do that it would show their policies are deeply harmful for the people of the UK. Not to mention all the Russian money they’ve been taking, not to mention all the other despotic regimes like Saudi Arabia they chum up to.
It can certainly end those debates.
We shouldn’t have statues of people who have values like Putin has.
End of debate.
Local Woman unable to comprehend caring about multiple things at once.
I love how she cares about freedom and democracy but then also doesn’t care about the freedom for people to choose their own pronouns because that would be the arbitrary point that’s “ridiculous”
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I think I’m missing something. How are pronouns and statues relevant to the war in Ukraine?
This is brilliant coming from a party that is imposing the most draconic laws ever in the UK. [The right to protest is now subjective](https://www.gov.uk/protests-and-marches-letting-the-police-know). If the government thinks you are being too noisy, then it becomes illegal. And how that is applied is very evident in the Sarah Everard protest V’s the Covid protests around the same time. When we look at how protesters are being arrested in Red Square with disgust, just remember that we have those laws applied here now.
They have attacks the judicial system by trying to grab extra powers. Their leader provoked attacks on Starmer, and continued to do so even when it was pointed out how dangerous this was. Truss herself was questioned about this on the BBC and said Johnson could do no wrong. Many in the party are currently being investigated under the party gate scandal. And the most disgusting part of all of this was how the police dodged actually doing their job to investigate in the first place.
These are really not the people to stand up and promote democracy or common decency values.
Only Britain could have an Anti-woke equalities minister.