How is the US abandoning Europe when required tech is ASML and Carl Zeiss etc?

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Posted by Crafty_Direction1273

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  2. It’s not required as in it’s not all of the tech that’s required. It’s some of it, and it’s owned by private companies. And we’re not at a point yet where it’s going to be nationalized anytime soon.

  3. Because ASML without American EUV tech liscense is like a car company without engine technology?

  4. Does ASML really have a choice when ALL of their major customers are under US control ? South Korea’s Samsung ? Virtually a US vassal state with the cooperation of their chaebols! Taiwan’s TSMC ? Under US security umbrella and is cooperating with US chip manufacturing investment as well! America’s Intel corporation ? LOL!

    Who are the Europeans going to sell to ? Mainland Chinese firms ?

    ASML’s photolithography systems and Carl Zeiss’ optics are effectively worth only a fraction of their value without any chip manufacturers toboth utilize and buy them …

  5. Big tech probably has enough money (aka moat) not to worry about tariffs and, besides, watching the space .. the world’s tech/“tech-rich” firms have been pursuing deals regardless except where “national security” is concerned.

  6. That’s a good question. I could see private companies, their services and products, become weaponized by nation states in trade wars, but it goes both ways: e.g. if the Netherlands sanctioned the US and forbade ASML to export or do business with US companies, the US could retaliate by ordering Google (just as an example) to seize providing their services and products to EU member countries. Thousands of businesses and institutions use American software products on the back-end to manage email, calendars, internal websites, cloud storage etc. and would seize functioning over night if that happened.

    However, given how dependent Europe currently is on US technology in certain sectors, I don’t think they will make moves that could provoke that kind of retaliation, until they managed to divest and lessen that dependence significantly, which will takes years.

  7. What is Europe going to do – not sell ASML machines to the US or China? That would further destroy Europe’s weak high-tech industry. 

  8. The current administration in the US is locked in some very narrow calculations of strategic outcomes, and most of those calculations under “America First” assume that it is possible for the US to be largely self-sufficient. This is a miscalculation, but it could be why they are abandoning key alliances and partnerships in favor of consolidating resources domestically.

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