They should just be proud if we’ve made a happy life for ourselves. Life is too short to be living someone else’s ideal.
I dont think this is necessarily a positive thing 😂
Edit: guys i did not mean to offend anyone
I’ve never had the need to make my parents proud, but it’s mostly also because my parents have never ever given me the feeling that I need to do that.
This color coding gives me anxiety.
I’ve heard that generally, Finnish parents kick their kids out of home and early so. Right after they graduate highschool or around that time.
So perhaps kids go like “fine, I’ll go live my own happy life” lol.
On a serious note, such self report shouldn’t be taken too seriously but surely there’s some truth to it and looking at what’s happening around the world, plenty of reasons to be happy in Finland.
Could be a part of it.
We don’t choose our parents, but we can choose lots of things in our lives. If you feel free of pressure to do things the way your parents want to, it sounds like a, well, freedom of sorts. And you can find a sense of community with people you choose to be with.
my goal is to fucking survive
I really think there’s something lost in translation here.
It’s true that Finnish youth tend to be very independent, and that extended families are perhaps not as tight as in other European countries — probably due to both cultural factors but also economy, because young people are pretty well able to leave home early.
But none of this explains why the Finnish number would be half that of other Nordics, for which I cannot imagine a real cultural reason.
Hypothetically the negative connotations of the word *ylpeys* (pride) in Finnish culture might be at play here. Finns tend to be very grounded and pride is in many contexts seen as something to avoid.
If you asked Finnish people “Do you want your parents to be happy about how you are doing in your life”, I bet the rate is somewhere far in excess of 25%.
I guess it must be a cultural trait, it honestly never occurred to me that such a thing could be a goal in life until I saw this graph. The whole concept is that alien to me, it just doesn’t enter the equation of my life.
Kinda sad if you have that kind of burden. Finding happiness, whatever it is, ought to be enough for the parents
I’m not Finnish, but this post makes me feel so Finnish. I love it.
This question has very negative connotations in Finnish. ”Being proud” is a bad thing, basically meaning you are either bragging or being conceited. The entire question sounds so weird in Finnish. We would use entirely different expression for this kind of feeling. Why would I want my parents to brag about my college degree or job? Not causing any shame to my parents is good enough, which sets the bar pretty low (like not seriously breaking the law or something).
Bullshit 8th year in a row. Girls aged 15-19, leading cause of death: Suicide. Boys the same age, suicide the 2nd highest cause of death. This is not a nation that’s raising happy kids into happy adults.
“We’re content with having basic amenities” is pretty much what the shit amounts to. How about asking about happiness from the poorest areas in Finland, the areas with the most unemployed or the most immigrants, or asking mentally ill people how they feel they’ve been treated by this country.
My main goal is to live until my parents are no more, then my promise to them is null and I can off myself too.
based Finland
As the song goes,
“Äiti pojastaan pappia toivoi,
Poika lauloi, lauloi ja joi,
Äiti toivoi, poika joi…”
This is my theory on why we’re ”the happiest country” all the time, and you can’t convince me this isn’t the truth:
People answer that they’re happy just because ”it could be worse” or ”you shouldn’t complain”. We’re not at war, there are no major natural disasters hitting us, food is available in stores with very little uncertainty.
Objectively, we are in a good place, and I’m thankful for that, of course. But we’re not that happy, our culture is ”shut up and deal with it”. Which in the long run has made us very unhappy. But we won’t complain, because it could be worse.
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They should just be proud if we’ve made a happy life for ourselves. Life is too short to be living someone else’s ideal.
I dont think this is necessarily a positive thing 😂
Edit: guys i did not mean to offend anyone
I’ve never had the need to make my parents proud, but it’s mostly also because my parents have never ever given me the feeling that I need to do that.
This color coding gives me anxiety.
I’ve heard that generally, Finnish parents kick their kids out of home and early so. Right after they graduate highschool or around that time.
So perhaps kids go like “fine, I’ll go live my own happy life” lol.
On a serious note, such self report shouldn’t be taken too seriously but surely there’s some truth to it and looking at what’s happening around the world, plenty of reasons to be happy in Finland.
Could be a part of it.
We don’t choose our parents, but we can choose lots of things in our lives. If you feel free of pressure to do things the way your parents want to, it sounds like a, well, freedom of sorts. And you can find a sense of community with people you choose to be with.
my goal is to fucking survive
I really think there’s something lost in translation here.
It’s true that Finnish youth tend to be very independent, and that extended families are perhaps not as tight as in other European countries — probably due to both cultural factors but also economy, because young people are pretty well able to leave home early.
But none of this explains why the Finnish number would be half that of other Nordics, for which I cannot imagine a real cultural reason.
Hypothetically the negative connotations of the word *ylpeys* (pride) in Finnish culture might be at play here. Finns tend to be very grounded and pride is in many contexts seen as something to avoid.
If you asked Finnish people “Do you want your parents to be happy about how you are doing in your life”, I bet the rate is somewhere far in excess of 25%.
I guess it must be a cultural trait, it honestly never occurred to me that such a thing could be a goal in life until I saw this graph. The whole concept is that alien to me, it just doesn’t enter the equation of my life.
Kinda sad if you have that kind of burden. Finding happiness, whatever it is, ought to be enough for the parents
I’m not Finnish, but this post makes me feel so Finnish. I love it.
This question has very negative connotations in Finnish. ”Being proud” is a bad thing, basically meaning you are either bragging or being conceited. The entire question sounds so weird in Finnish. We would use entirely different expression for this kind of feeling. Why would I want my parents to brag about my college degree or job? Not causing any shame to my parents is good enough, which sets the bar pretty low (like not seriously breaking the law or something).
Bullshit 8th year in a row. Girls aged 15-19, leading cause of death: Suicide. Boys the same age, suicide the 2nd highest cause of death. This is not a nation that’s raising happy kids into happy adults.
“We’re content with having basic amenities” is pretty much what the shit amounts to. How about asking about happiness from the poorest areas in Finland, the areas with the most unemployed or the most immigrants, or asking mentally ill people how they feel they’ve been treated by this country.
My main goal is to live until my parents are no more, then my promise to them is null and I can off myself too.
based Finland
As the song goes,
“Äiti pojastaan pappia toivoi,
Poika lauloi, lauloi ja joi,
Äiti toivoi, poika joi…”
This is my theory on why we’re ”the happiest country” all the time, and you can’t convince me this isn’t the truth:
People answer that they’re happy just because ”it could be worse” or ”you shouldn’t complain”. We’re not at war, there are no major natural disasters hitting us, food is available in stores with very little uncertainty.
Objectively, we are in a good place, and I’m thankful for that, of course. But we’re not that happy, our culture is ”shut up and deal with it”. Which in the long run has made us very unhappy. But we won’t complain, because it could be worse.
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