Welp… that worked out great for everyone… procrastination from Britain and France lead to 6 years of war that could have “ended by Christmas ” if they actually intervened.
Lie detector test determined that was a lie.
Oh good, I’m happy they agreed on it. 🙃
France: “why die for Danzig?” Then they literally sent French Jews into the hands of nazis
Britain: victim-blaming for “falling too quickly” after being attacked on both fronts
And now they want an European army, that would be under EU.
Thank goodness for that! Oh nvm
Wojska Brytyjskie zaczęto przerzucać do Francji od 3 września. Francja rozpoczęła ofensywę w zagłębiu Saary 7 września.
Ignacy Mościcki zapewniał aliantów ze utrzymają pozycje obronne przez przynajmniej miesiąc, podczas gdy Polska obrona załamała się już 6 września, a Polskie wojska dostaly rozkaz wycofania się na linię Wisły i Dunajca.
Od tego czasu Niemcy zaczęli odciążać front wschodni i przerzucać wojska na zachodnią granicę i powstrzymali Francuską ofensywę.
17 września od wschodu wkroczyly już wojska sowieckie.
To wszystko działo się w czasach, gdzie koncepcje wojny blyskawicznej nie byly powszechnie znane, a wojska Alianckie żyły doświadczeniami I wojny światowej.
Nie pozwólcie, aby wciąż żywa propaganda PRL i Rosji, tworzona WYŁĄCZNIE aby tworzyć podzialy miedzy nami i naszymi sojusznikami, wpływała na wasz osąd. Nikt w czasie II WŚ nie zrobił dla nas więcej dobrego niż Wielka Brytania i Francja!
Hahaha teraz też tak będzie
When your grandpa wants to tell a joke.
Kappa
They never did. They used this declaration for their own purposes.
Hate bait.
The real defeat was sealed when Germany was given Czechoslovakia. Polands fate was written at that point and compounded with Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Britain wouldn’t have been able to do much in that heroic period of Poland’s defence, anyone with even a shred of knowledge would know it would have been impossible to get the British army to Poland before Poland’s surrender and it would have left Britain stranded there at the start of the war. However what is never mentioned is that France did invade Germany.
The biggest betrayal was Yalta largely by Roosevelt and Stalin. A common theme of Russia here, I wonder if OP seeks to minimise their role in all this 🤔.
This WW2 hate bait is not useful, don’t fall for it.
All the Poles in the comments blaming UK and France for “betraying” you… You do remember that Poland was a functioning state with an army, right? It’s not like they attacked a country without any armed forces. You should blame your joke of a government and joke of generals for failing to protect their own country (the frontline was collapsing and it was evident that this was a lost cause even before Soviets got engaged).
And fight they did. And die, in their hundreds of thousands, for Poland. It was a terrible shame, the guarantee failed – Britain and France could have said “well you called our bluff, we’ll talk about a settlement for Poland now then” but they didn’t. They went on fighting till the end.
The British army was dangerously close to being defeated/killed/captured on the beaches of France during the Blitzkreig by Germany. Now imgaine that situation sandwiched between the newly formed alliance of Nazi Germany and Stalins Russia.
UK would of been out the war and forced to sue for peace. Meaning no American intervention, no D-Day, no liberation, and potentially full Russian defeat by the Nazi’s as the West flank of Europe would have been firmly secured.
Yes, it was shit this happened. That whole time period was shit. But I fail to see its relevance in the modern day bar Russian bots stirring up the usual division with Allies in Europe.
Hundreds of thousands of French and British people died honoring the war call. Yes the opening reaction was pathetic since they weren’t ready, but to claim they lied is crazy work. All of France occupied alongside Poland, British cities in rubble. The treaty was honored for Poland, but not for Czechoslovakia
Accepting British and French “security guarantees” was a mistake. This was an exotic alliance, neither of them had any real power to stop Germany.
It might sound controversial, but I think we should accept a deal with Hitler. Yes, probably we would lose some independence and territory, and yes, Polish Jews would suffer. But we might have avoided 6 million of Poles dying, having most of the country turned to ruin by German and Soviet bombs, and then losing our independence to Soviet Union. And Polish Jews suffered more, than in any other nation that collaborated with Nazi Germany.
People often make a mistake of looking at Europe of 1930s through modern lens, especially when bringing up Hitler’s views on Poland and the rest of the Slavs. Mein Kampf was so popular, because typical person from London, Paris, Rome or Barcelona agreed with 70% of that book already.
Ahhh…. April Fools. An honoured tradition.
So kind of like Article 5. Anyone who thinks that the US will do anything is delusional. EU countries though do have skin in the game, which is why we need EU based defense treaties.
How to say “to nie nasza wojna” in French? /s
Britain did not have the capacity in 1939 to come to Poland’s aid, the army barely got out of France.
The UK could have locked the doors (not like now), but instead built a modern force to help retake Europe, the Polish RAF fighters were unbelievable
Churchill never gave up, but the UK was broke by the end of the war, and the French President blocked the UK into the EEC (EU) Ungrateful bastards
The UK paid off its World War II debt to the United States and Canada on
December 29, 2006. The final payment was approximately $83 million to
the US and $23.6 million to Canada, marking the end of a 61-year
repayment period that began in 1950
France had no debt, The French did not pay reparations to the U.S. after World War II.
Instead, France received reparations from Germany as part of the
post-war settlements. Britain did not
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Welp… that worked out great for everyone… procrastination from Britain and France lead to 6 years of war that could have “ended by Christmas ” if they actually intervened.
Lie detector test determined that was a lie.
Oh good, I’m happy they agreed on it. 🙃
France: “why die for Danzig?” Then they literally sent French Jews into the hands of nazis
Britain: victim-blaming for “falling too quickly” after being attacked on both fronts
And now they want an European army, that would be under EU.
Thank goodness for that! Oh nvm
Wojska Brytyjskie zaczęto przerzucać do Francji od 3 września. Francja rozpoczęła ofensywę w zagłębiu Saary 7 września.
Ignacy Mościcki zapewniał aliantów ze utrzymają pozycje obronne przez przynajmniej miesiąc, podczas gdy Polska obrona załamała się już 6 września, a Polskie wojska dostaly rozkaz wycofania się na linię Wisły i Dunajca.
Od tego czasu Niemcy zaczęli odciążać front wschodni i przerzucać wojska na zachodnią granicę i powstrzymali Francuską ofensywę.
17 września od wschodu wkroczyly już wojska sowieckie.
To wszystko działo się w czasach, gdzie koncepcje wojny blyskawicznej nie byly powszechnie znane, a wojska Alianckie żyły doświadczeniami I wojny światowej.
Nie pozwólcie, aby wciąż żywa propaganda PRL i Rosji, tworzona WYŁĄCZNIE aby tworzyć podzialy miedzy nami i naszymi sojusznikami, wpływała na wasz osąd. Nikt w czasie II WŚ nie zrobił dla nas więcej dobrego niż Wielka Brytania i Francja!
Hahaha teraz też tak będzie
When your grandpa wants to tell a joke.
Kappa
They never did. They used this declaration for their own purposes.
Hate bait.
The real defeat was sealed when Germany was given Czechoslovakia. Polands fate was written at that point and compounded with Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Britain wouldn’t have been able to do much in that heroic period of Poland’s defence, anyone with even a shred of knowledge would know it would have been impossible to get the British army to Poland before Poland’s surrender and it would have left Britain stranded there at the start of the war. However what is never mentioned is that France did invade Germany.
https://youtu.be/lKTbhC0s5xg?si=gpAauZ020-bzlC49
The biggest betrayal was Yalta largely by Roosevelt and Stalin. A common theme of Russia here, I wonder if OP seeks to minimise their role in all this 🤔.
This WW2 hate bait is not useful, don’t fall for it.
All the Poles in the comments blaming UK and France for “betraying” you… You do remember that Poland was a functioning state with an army, right? It’s not like they attacked a country without any armed forces. You should blame your joke of a government and joke of generals for failing to protect their own country (the frontline was collapsing and it was evident that this was a lost cause even before Soviets got engaged).
And fight they did. And die, in their hundreds of thousands, for Poland. It was a terrible shame, the guarantee failed – Britain and France could have said “well you called our bluff, we’ll talk about a settlement for Poland now then” but they didn’t. They went on fighting till the end.
The British army was dangerously close to being defeated/killed/captured on the beaches of France during the Blitzkreig by Germany. Now imgaine that situation sandwiched between the newly formed alliance of Nazi Germany and Stalins Russia.
UK would of been out the war and forced to sue for peace. Meaning no American intervention, no D-Day, no liberation, and potentially full Russian defeat by the Nazi’s as the West flank of Europe would have been firmly secured.
Yes, it was shit this happened. That whole time period was shit. But I fail to see its relevance in the modern day bar Russian bots stirring up the usual division with Allies in Europe.
Hundreds of thousands of French and British people died honoring the war call. Yes the opening reaction was pathetic since they weren’t ready, but to claim they lied is crazy work. All of France occupied alongside Poland, British cities in rubble. The treaty was honored for Poland, but not for Czechoslovakia
Accepting British and French “security guarantees” was a mistake. This was an exotic alliance, neither of them had any real power to stop Germany.
It might sound controversial, but I think we should accept a deal with Hitler. Yes, probably we would lose some independence and territory, and yes, Polish Jews would suffer. But we might have avoided 6 million of Poles dying, having most of the country turned to ruin by German and Soviet bombs, and then losing our independence to Soviet Union. And Polish Jews suffered more, than in any other nation that collaborated with Nazi Germany.
People often make a mistake of looking at Europe of 1930s through modern lens, especially when bringing up Hitler’s views on Poland and the rest of the Slavs. Mein Kampf was so popular, because typical person from London, Paris, Rome or Barcelona agreed with 70% of that book already.
Ahhh…. April Fools. An honoured tradition.
So kind of like Article 5. Anyone who thinks that the US will do anything is delusional. EU countries though do have skin in the game, which is why we need EU based defense treaties.
How to say “to nie nasza wojna” in French? /s
Britain did not have the capacity in 1939 to come to Poland’s aid, the army barely got out of France.
The UK could have locked the doors (not like now), but instead built a modern force to help retake Europe, the Polish RAF fighters were unbelievable
Churchill never gave up, but the UK was broke by the end of the war, and the French President blocked the UK into the EEC (EU) Ungrateful bastards
The UK paid off its World War II debt to the United States and Canada on
December 29, 2006. The final payment was approximately $83 million to
the US and $23.6 million to Canada, marking the end of a 61-year
repayment period that began in 1950
France had no debt, The French did not pay reparations to the U.S. after World War II.
Instead, France received reparations from Germany as part of the
post-war settlements. Britain did not
UK has always been and still is a soft touch
Bt simplistic I know
Biggest anime betrayals
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