The UK Government admitted it has no way to measure if Brexit is a success. Critics say it is a smokescreen for its failure

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  1. Headline:

    “The UK Government admitted it has no way to measure if Brexit is a success.”

    First paragraph:

    “The UK Government proposed no measurable way to assess the success of Brexit”

    Those aren’t the same thing at all.

  2. > “The UK Government proposed no measurable way to assess the success of Brexit”

    Could say the same of any referendum involving EU treaty change over the past two decades. That’s news? Where’s FF’s plan for how they can measure the success of the Lisbon Treaty in Ireland?

  3. Yeah also really Brexit will take decades to fully play out and I don’t mean within the last 5 years, i mean after 10, 20 and maybe 50 years is a better measure

  4. I am working on a successometer that they can use. It’s a hat containing pieces of paper with YES and NO written on them. The hat is always right.

  8. Based on experience, if you have to defend that something it’s good means its most likely not good

  9. Well remainers claimed by 2021 (this year) we would have 12.5% unemployment…it currently stands at 4.5%, 2% lower than the EU average…so, I guess we can measure that as a success.

  10. While I was opposed to Brexit (and would have voted remain if I had the choice), any supposed benefits of leaving the union will take years to accurately assess, just like the data from the pandemic. I am sure there will be *some* upsides, just as there will also be *some* downsides. Where on the scale the balance tips — more upsides or more downsides — will take a time to accurately measure.

    It’s obvious that the Uk can be more nimble, but it now lacks the power of the bloc. Likewise, the bloc lacks the added weight of the UK, one of the largest economies in the world (and likely to remain that for some time, despite the schadenfruidic glee that many here express whenever any ill befalls the Uk because of brexit). Long term, I imagine that there will be some damage both to the UK *and* the EU thanks to Brexit, but I hope that the UK can become a more agile economy and culture, and that the EU can learn from the experience and reform in a healthy way beneficial to all it’s member states. Contrary to popular opinion, I actually think Brexit has made federalisation a less likely prospect, and that Euroskepticism has not been routed out despite some of the short term consequences already seen as a result of the UK leaving the single market.

  11. Hate to sound conspiracist here, but what I really wanna know is why the UK media desperately didn’t want the English to join. Not the Scots or Northern Irish. Just the English and Welsh. What was really in it for them eh?

  16. The reality is there was never a consensus on what form Brexit should take or what it was aiming to achieve but because the Tories electoral future was dependent on sticking with Brexit they chose to circumvent this issue by keeping the purpose of Brexit as vague as possible and lying about the problems Brexit would cause.

    There are plenty of ways the government can measure the ‘success’ of Brexit but they just don’t want to because it’s a complete cluster fuck and would be electorally damaging to admit that.

    The fishing industry was supposed to be booming so how’s how’s going? By all accounts it’s fucked.

    We were supposed to be making loads of trade deals that were superior to what we could have gotten via the EU? So far we’ve mostly just rolled over the EU ones (And then had to fix loafs of them because they left in references to EU law 🤣) and negotiated a handful that give little to no benefit to the UK.

    What have we actually gained?

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