Disqualified from driving after smoking cannabis the previous night | The Southern Star

by gig1922

27 comments
  1. Utter nonsense. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise. This is the equivalent of having a pint the night before and being told you’re over the limit the next morning.

    Utter fucking nonsense.

  2. OK, that’s the law and you got caught, but what’s the point when current research can’t show compelling next-day effects?

    You may as well pull people for having a rough head but testing clear after a late night or some beers.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/ie/blog/your-brain-on-food/202301/what-are-the-next-day-effects-of-cannabis-use

    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9940812/#:~:text=N%3D209%2F345%20tests%20conducted,had%20a%20%E2%80%9Chigh%E2%80%9D%20RoB.

  3. If you’re going to do drugs don’t get into the car the next afternoon. Well done judge

    Edit: Uh oh the Reddit gang don’t like this one! I’m glad common sense has prevailed

  4. If alcohol had the same half life in your body, and thus you’d be convicted based on that half life, you’d see a change in the legislation sharpish

  5. Might as well disqualify people for getting less than 8 hours sleep as this.

  6. Disgusting. Plain and Simple.

    The fact AGS even use tests (that have the lowest threshold in the world) that show trace amounts of cannabis days after last use when it is *no longer actively impairing you* only for them to turn around and label you impaired is beyond a joke.

    It’s not about impairment let’s make that *very* fucking clear. Impairment from Cannabis passes after 5-8 hours and at most 12, This is only about showing that you have a trace amount of a “Banned” substance present in your saliva which is completely undemocratic and frankly fascist.

    I stand in Solidarity with this victim.

    When will the Irish people have enough of this shit!

  7. I might be wrong but AFAIK there’s no tech yet to test for accurate blood THC levels instantaneously like you can for alcohol BAC with a breathalyser. If there isn’t it’s either in for a penny or in for a pound, you either don’t test at all or you keep testing like this on a black and white positive/negative basis.

  8. I”d be more concerned about some one guzzling half a bottle of drowsy cough mixture the night before.

  9. This is obscene. I haven’t consumed cannabis in years, but anyone who has knows that smoking it wears off entirely in less than 5 hours — and that’s being very, very generous. More like 3 hours for all functional purposes.

    The idea of severely punishing someone by taking away their ability to drive, which is necessary for most people, over a “crime” that had zero negative effects…it’s horrible and makes us look like we still live in the 20th century.

  10. Even the RSA says it’s bollicks.

    They say you could test positive 15h to 2 weeks afterwards.

    The RSA also raises doubts that impairment exists during this period.

    The way they switch between nano and micrograms is criminal.

    This is not smoking and driving. This is someone smoked a joint near me at a Justin Bieber concert a week ago and now I’ve lost my license.

    https://www.rsa.ie/docs/default-source/road-safety/campaigns/icadts-cannabis-5-policy-_-legislative-issues.pdf?sfvrsn=b93cbae8_3#:~:text=Medical%20consumers%20who%20are%20chronic,(https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rijveiligmetmedicijnen.

    https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2016/act/21/section/8/enacted/en/html

  11. Signing up for Junior B this year just in case the Gardaí go after me next

  12. Nonsense rules and laws to fill someones rota and pockets which could destroy people’s life’s off the back of it. The Country I loved all my live I’m starting to hate.

  13. You’re taking a risk smoking regularly here if you have to drive everyday. Yes, the law is stupid, but we all know by now how sensitive these tests are

  14. Wow I was lucky, I smoked weed from the pipe, a few hours later was driving, and parked the car, I work nights and had not been to bed in over 24 hours so was tired, fell asleep in the front seat, was staying in Dublin that night but didn’t book anywhere to stay so was just going to sleep in the back seat, my gf was smoking in car just before I was arrested, I didn’t, so the car smelled like weed.

    Anyway cops didn’t swab me, they took me in and took a blood test, was told I could pick up the car in the morning at 7 am, they parked it on double yellow lines so told me I would get clamped if I left it there till after 8.30am. so was homeless for the night in Dublin, left the cops at 3.30am.
    A letter came a few weeks later and it just said “no drugs were found in my system “

  15. We need to start more civil rights protesting around this issue, Start celebrating 420 and really protesting properly

  16. If you believe him. Not saying it’s truth or not. But most people lie, even those without criminal records tend to lie more than those with in my experience. I’ve had people stinking of cannabis with their eyes burning out of their skull, found with a joint in the car, and tell me they smoked two nights ago. Believe what you want to, but I never take anything said in court by a solicitor after conviction as gospel. You can say what you want to make a sob story. The tests are certainly not as sensitive as are made out to believe, they don’t catch people smoking last week like some people say, that’s an outright lie.

  17. It’s mad. Most of the Gardai are on drugs themselves during shifts which includes patrols😂

  18. I’m both a smoker and a driver, and I go out of my way to make sure that both of those interests have absolutely zero overlap with one another. The sheer idea that I could be accused and convicted of driving while impaired as I go to lengths to make sure that I don’t is fucking enraging.

  19. This shit is ridiculous. We KNOW that these tests are bullshit, yet they continue to be used. Legalize, regulate, and commercialize. Stop with this 1950s stupidity.

  20. Ive been a habitual smoker now for the past 20 years. I can say, with 110% certainty that, you are not impaired in any way, shape or form the next day. The fact that people are losing their jobs over our Draconian cannabis laws is comical considering about 2/3 of the island of Ireland is snorting copious amounts of cocaine to function daily. The sheer hypocrisy of these ‘lawmakers’ is ridiculous.

  21. I’m in favour of legalisation purely so Im not presented with threads on r/Ireland full of whingebags who are pissed off the vast majority of people have much more serious things to worry about than said whingebags’ hobby of smoking the brain off themselves.

  22. This will only change once someone who is high up has a friend or family member in this situation and not before.

    I walk through Dublin regularly at night and the wiff of weed is everywhere.
    At some point you think the government want a piece of the tax on it. But I believe its making people alot of money not legislating it that this won’t happen. For guards it’s an easy way to get back to the station and off the streets

  23. Don’t smoke the time if you can’t do the crime

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