Messed this up a little bit I was supposed to be asking how this could potentially affect the likes of buffer zone legislation?
Negatively. It’s obvious Starmer has been played.
But we all get a state visit from the guy bringing fresh suffering to those least able to pay, also thanks to Starmer. So we get to say ‘thank you’ in person to Trump for pissing on our chips whilst our European neighbours look on in deep disgust.
Genuinely fucking insane that we are in a position where the telegraph has an entire article trying to pretend that the US is genuinely doing this in the name of free speech without even mentioning the same administration are kidnapping and deporting students for being at all critical of the government.
This is the same country that is currently kidnapping and deporting people for being pro Palestine, right?
Obviously the US government is also intervening in the cases of JSO protesters jailed for planning a protest? No?
US Govt getting their April Fools in early…….
You can say anything you like, so long as you don’t criticise the tangerine tinpot.
Nice definition of “free” speech.
Only after reading the comments here did I realise that WE are supposedly the ones with the free speech problem..! Aye right. 🤣🤣🤣
Does this mean scrapping the hate crime bill?
The article makes no mention of the French research scientist who was recently deported from the US because they went through his emails and kicked him out for laughing about Trump.
Fuck America. How’s that for Free Speech?
Nice, bulldoze the Orwellian hate laws
It’s posturing to keep the UK far right buying USA whilst the rest of us are boycotting. Starmer needs to respond with more than mealy mouth sentiments. The shortcomings of American democracy need to be laid bare internationally no more Mr nice guy.
Scotland has no say but it needn’t cost jobs if our goods and services can find more lucretive markets opened up by USA boycotting elsewhere. Where burbon shelves are empty let there be Single malt.
Hopefully in the next few years we can see a gradual reduction in being shackled to the Yanks, and realign with Europe. Won’t hold my breath given the state of Westminster right now, though..
USA is a shit show right now but every cloud as the saying goes. We haven’t got the resources to have police investigate every time someone is offended and even if we did it’s not a road we want to go down.
Oh well since America doesn’t have free speech, it doesn’t get free trade. Byeeee
The US has not intention of signing a trade deal with us. They have dragged this out for years.
I dont see why we should constantly kotow to their demands. Enough is enough..
Mango Mussolini has no right to dictate what our hate speech laws should be. Also he can lick ma baws, the Oompa Loompa looking prick.
I’m literally scared to write stuff here in the comments incase I ever get sent over the pond for work. They have employed an AI to scrape people’s social media accounts to help identify and deport/deny people.
And Josh Hawley wants to make atheism illegal.
Fuck the USA and its trade deal.
I’d imagine that the Whisky industry will take a hit due to the high exports it has to American markets. For Scotland specifically, food and drink in general will probs take quite a hit
It’s important that free speech does not turn into hate speech but there have been some pretty cack handed efforts in Scotland to control speech for the purposes of virtue. I do worry about Robespierre’s very famous quote that the “Mainspring of popular government” is both “virtue and terror,” with “virtue being essential for terror to be effective, and terror being necessary for virtue to be powerful”. This is somewhat of a paraphrase.
“How will Scotland be affected”
…..is the title implying we don’t have free speech in Scotland?
Starmer’s response should be ‘You first’.
I know it won’t be, but it should be.
Are we trying to suggest the UK has freedom of speech when we’re giving multi year sentences for tweets that don’t even meet the bar for incitement?
Scottish people should have more kids, or become an minority.
Every time a right wing American says there’s no free speed in the U.K. we need to all send them a picture of Janey Godley holding up her “Trump is a cunt” sign.
Free speech at its finest.
If only we were members of a larger trading block that would enable us to resist this kind of pressure.
Oh… wait…
Judging by the comments it’s just utter pish as per which isn’t surprising
U.S. will back off. It’s just fuckloads of bluster right now. Nobody can segregate as much as they’re claiming and not fuck their economy.
Well we already have free speech here, so the deal’s done.
What they actually mean is “we want all hate speech laws repealed so we can say anything we want with absolutely no comeback”
This comes from a government that hates free speech but pretends it’s in favour.
The Orwellian stuff just keeps coming.
*Sigh* Its not about free speech its about the ability to lie, repeatedly, without challenge or consequence.
Who cares, we but barely anything from the US, it’s mostly selling that we do. Let trumpty dumpty impose tariffs, it’s only Americans that’ll suffer
Keir is spineless . You know he will take it.
I saw this coming a mile off anyone else who didn’t hasn’t been watching the USA. Next you watch what he does to the EU because of the Court decision against Le Penne. Whatever you think of her politics the Court must have had their heads in the sand to issue a sentence like that at a time like this plus the EU going after her just feeds into Trumps whole ‘lawfare’ mindset. It’s like these technocrats don’t live in the real world.
Scotland the bastion of Free Speech with a Hate Speech Bill where you can be arrested for what you think in your own home. It was only toned down after a massive outrage from actors, comedians, lawyers and civil libertarians. We are hardly a shining example at the moment.
Meanwhile in the US museums are being told what is and isn’t history by the state.
Christ the fkn comments on that article. I thought the Telegraph was supposed to be for more educated Tories, but the comments all seem like they came from Reform fkrs
No free trade with US unless UK arbitrarily throws people into a slave labour prison in El Salvador, Starmer warned
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Messed this up a little bit I was supposed to be asking how this could potentially affect the likes of buffer zone legislation?
Negatively. It’s obvious Starmer has been played.
But we all get a state visit from the guy bringing fresh suffering to those least able to pay, also thanks to Starmer. So we get to say ‘thank you’ in person to Trump for pissing on our chips whilst our European neighbours look on in deep disgust.
Genuinely fucking insane that we are in a position where the telegraph has an entire article trying to pretend that the US is genuinely doing this in the name of free speech without even mentioning the same administration are kidnapping and deporting students for being at all critical of the government.
This is the same country that is currently kidnapping and deporting people for being pro Palestine, right?
Obviously the US government is also intervening in the cases of JSO protesters jailed for planning a protest? No?
US Govt getting their April Fools in early…….
You can say anything you like, so long as you don’t criticise the tangerine tinpot.
Nice definition of “free” speech.
Only after reading the comments here did I realise that WE are supposedly the ones with the free speech problem..! Aye right. 🤣🤣🤣
Does this mean scrapping the hate crime bill?
The article makes no mention of the French research scientist who was recently deported from the US because they went through his emails and kicked him out for laughing about Trump.
Fuck America. How’s that for Free Speech?
Nice, bulldoze the Orwellian hate laws
It’s posturing to keep the UK far right buying USA whilst the rest of us are boycotting. Starmer needs to respond with more than mealy mouth sentiments. The shortcomings of American democracy need to be laid bare internationally no more Mr nice guy.
Scotland has no say but it needn’t cost jobs if our goods and services can find more lucretive markets opened up by USA boycotting elsewhere. Where burbon shelves are empty let there be Single malt.
Hopefully in the next few years we can see a gradual reduction in being shackled to the Yanks, and realign with Europe. Won’t hold my breath given the state of Westminster right now, though..
USA is a shit show right now but every cloud as the saying goes. We haven’t got the resources to have police investigate every time someone is offended and even if we did it’s not a road we want to go down.
Oh well since America doesn’t have free speech, it doesn’t get free trade. Byeeee
The US has not intention of signing a trade deal with us. They have dragged this out for years.
I dont see why we should constantly kotow to their demands. Enough is enough..
Mango Mussolini has no right to dictate what our hate speech laws should be. Also he can lick ma baws, the Oompa Loompa looking prick.
I’m literally scared to write stuff here in the comments incase I ever get sent over the pond for work. They have employed an AI to scrape people’s social media accounts to help identify and deport/deny people.
And Josh Hawley wants to make atheism illegal.
Fuck the USA and its trade deal.
I’d imagine that the Whisky industry will take a hit due to the high exports it has to American markets. For Scotland specifically, food and drink in general will probs take quite a hit
It’s important that free speech does not turn into hate speech but there have been some pretty cack handed efforts in Scotland to control speech for the purposes of virtue. I do worry about Robespierre’s very famous quote that the “Mainspring of popular government” is both “virtue and terror,” with “virtue being essential for terror to be effective, and terror being necessary for virtue to be powerful”. This is somewhat of a paraphrase.
“How will Scotland be affected”
…..is the title implying we don’t have free speech in Scotland?
Starmer’s response should be ‘You first’.
I know it won’t be, but it should be.
Are we trying to suggest the UK has freedom of speech when we’re giving multi year sentences for tweets that don’t even meet the bar for incitement?
Scottish people should have more kids, or become an minority.
Every time a right wing American says there’s no free speed in the U.K. we need to all send them a picture of Janey Godley holding up her “Trump is a cunt” sign.
Free speech at its finest.
If only we were members of a larger trading block that would enable us to resist this kind of pressure.
Oh… wait…
Judging by the comments it’s just utter pish as per which isn’t surprising
U.S. will back off. It’s just fuckloads of bluster right now. Nobody can segregate as much as they’re claiming and not fuck their economy.
Well we already have free speech here, so the deal’s done.
What they actually mean is “we want all hate speech laws repealed so we can say anything we want with absolutely no comeback”
This comes from a government that hates free speech but pretends it’s in favour.
The Orwellian stuff just keeps coming.
*Sigh* Its not about free speech its about the ability to lie, repeatedly, without challenge or consequence.
Who cares, we but barely anything from the US, it’s mostly selling that we do. Let trumpty dumpty impose tariffs, it’s only Americans that’ll suffer
Keir is spineless . You know he will take it.
I saw this coming a mile off anyone else who didn’t hasn’t been watching the USA. Next you watch what he does to the EU because of the Court decision against Le Penne. Whatever you think of her politics the Court must have had their heads in the sand to issue a sentence like that at a time like this plus the EU going after her just feeds into Trumps whole ‘lawfare’ mindset. It’s like these technocrats don’t live in the real world.
Scotland the bastion of Free Speech with a Hate Speech Bill where you can be arrested for what you think in your own home. It was only toned down after a massive outrage from actors, comedians, lawyers and civil libertarians. We are hardly a shining example at the moment.
Meanwhile in the US museums are being told what is and isn’t history by the state.
Christ the fkn comments on that article. I thought the Telegraph was supposed to be for more educated Tories, but the comments all seem like they came from Reform fkrs
No free trade with US unless UK arbitrarily throws people into a slave labour prison in El Salvador, Starmer warned
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